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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Read-only env variables
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:29:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100622222932.DCDB71524EE@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimi9FWMiaKkvm0RVgWSp5_uhHhTUtALZ9DbX0xy@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Joe Hershberger,

In message <AANLkTimi9FWMiaKkvm0RVgWSp5_uhHhTUtALZ9DbX0xy@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
>
> So this means all aspects of the env handling would be under "env *"
> including such things as printenv and setenv?  I like this so long as
> the current commands remain for compatibility.

That's what I'm doing.

> That sounds interesting.  Is there another thread where you've gone
> into detail about this?

No, not yet. I'm still experimenting with the design; I would like to
know a little better myself what I want to do before I start
discussing it :-)

> >>     s - string (default)
> >>     d - decimal
> >>     x - hexadecimal
> >>     b - boolean
> >>     i - ip address
> >>     m - ethernet mac address
> >
> > You might want to add 'p' for pointers.
> 
> How is this different than hexadecimal or decimal?  What would the
> validation entail?

For 'd' and 'x' I would expect to see the equivalent of an "unsigned
long" as underlying data type; for 'p' we should probably use a
"physaddr_t" which might be > 32 bit even on 32 bit systems.

> > I did not get the concept of "auto-volatile". Please explain once
> > more.
> 
> I'll try to make it more clear with an example...  take ipaddr for
> instance.  Your ACL has configured the ipaddr as "auto-volatile".
> Your static IP address is stored in flash in ipaddr.  You boot and
> decide you want DHCP, so you run "dhcp" to assign the ipaddr variable.
>  You save your environment and the IP address that the DHCP server
> gave you is not saved in the flash, it is only used for network
> communication during this session.  The next time you boot, you get
> your static IP back, since it was not overwritten in your flash.  You
> then device that you would like to change your static IP address
> setting.  When you call setenv some the command prompt (or a script),
> the "auto-volatile" setting is removed from the ipaddr variable in the
> ACL (the acl in RAM, not flash) which gives it the default behavior
> that all variables have now.  Now when you save your environment, the
> new ipaddr setting is saved into flash and available he next time you
> boot.

You mean the setenv() called from the DHCP code would behave
differently than the setenv() called from the command line? Now that
_is_ confusing to me. I doubt many users will understand what's going
on on such a system.

> > I think we should make this a compile time option - and if it was for
> > the unavoidable additional memory footprint.
> 
> So that means we should not remove the current ethaddr and serial#
> write protection.

Not if it can be avoided easily. OTOH my new code will have commands
like "env default" or "env import" which will not care at all about
these variables, but simply do what you asked for. Dunno if this will
need to be changed - but if so, then I'd rather to this in the context
of a new read-only concept.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-22 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-28  2:07 [U-Boot] Read-only env variables Joe Hershberger
2010-05-06 21:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-05-10  6:30   ` Joe Hershberger
2010-05-10  6:56     ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-05-10 19:16       ` Joe Hershberger
2010-05-10 20:43         ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-05-10 21:33           ` Joe Hershberger
2010-05-11 20:19             ` Craig Millen
2010-05-11 22:03               ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-05-11 22:52                 ` Joe Hershberger
2010-05-12  9:34                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-05-12 23:46                     ` Joe Hershberger
2010-06-22 21:18                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-06-22 21:49                         ` Joe Hershberger
2010-06-22 22:29                           ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2012-08-17 20:49                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/12] Add environment type checking and access control Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 01/12] tools/env: Use a board-specific default env Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23  3:17                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-08-23 15:45                                   ` Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 02/12] tools/env: Remove unneeded complexity Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23  3:30                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 03/12] tools/env: Don't call env_init() in fw_getenv() Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 04/12] tools/env: Reduce the impact on real-time processes Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23  3:30                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-08-23 16:26                                   ` Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23 20:31                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 05/12] tools/env: Serialize calls to fw_*env Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23  3:33                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-10-03  1:12                                   ` Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 06/12] env: Make the "silent" env var take effect immediately Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23  3:35                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 07/12] env: Update serial baudrate in env_relocate() Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 08/12] env: Check for NULL pointer in envmatch() Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 23:51                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 09/12] env: Clarify the cases for env set Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 10/12] env: acl: Add environment variable access control list Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23  3:43                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-09-13 20:13                                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-09-14  2:24                                   ` Joe Hershberger
2012-09-14 18:42                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-01 16:39                                       ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/18] Add environment call-back and flags capability Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 01/18] Make linux kernel string funcs available to tools Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 02/18] env: Refactor do_apply to a flag Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 03/18] env: Consolidate common code in hsearch_r() Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 04/18] env: Refactor apply into change_ok Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 05/18] env: Use getenv_yesno() more generally Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 06/18] env: Hide '.' variables in env print by default Joe Hershberger
2012-11-02 10:44                                           ` Luka Perkov
2012-11-02 22:23                                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 07/18] env: Add support for callbacks to environment vars Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 08/18] env: Add a command to view callbacks Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 09/18] env: Add a bootfile env handler Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 10/18] env: Add a baudrate " Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 11/18] env: Add a loadaddr " Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 12/18] env: Add a console " Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 13/18] env: Add a silent " Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 14/18] env: Add environment variable flags Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 15/18] tools/env: Add environment variable flags support Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 16/18] env: Add a command to display details about env flags Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 17/18] env: Add support for access control to .flags Joe Hershberger
2012-11-01 16:39                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 18/18] env: Handle write-once ethaddr and serial# generically Joe Hershberger
2012-11-02 22:40                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/18] Add environment call-back and flags capability Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-05  0:15                                           ` Joe Hershberger
2012-12-01 19:44                                           ` Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 0/20] " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 01/20] Make linux kernel string funcs available to tools Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 02/20] env: Refactor do_apply to a flag Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 03/20] env: Consolidate common code in hsearch_r() Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 04/20] env: Refactor apply into change_ok Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 05/20] env: Use getenv_yesno() more generally Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 06/20] env: Hide '.' variables in env print by default Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 07/20] env: Add support for callbacks to environment vars Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  2:34                                             ` Graeme Russ
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 08/20] env: Add a command to view callbacks Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 09/20] env: Add a bootfile env handler Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 10/20] env: Add a baudrate " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 11/20] env: Add a loadaddr " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 12/20] env: Add a console " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 13/20] env: Add a silent " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 14/20] env: Add environment variable flags Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 15/20] tools/env: Add environment variable flags support Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 16/20] env: Add a command to display details about env flags Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 17/20] env: Add support for access control to .flags Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 18/20] env: Add setenv force support Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 19/20] env: Implement the env delete command Joe Hershberger
2012-12-05  1:52                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 20/20] env: Handle write-once ethaddr and serial# generically Joe Hershberger
2012-12-11 16:51                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v4 0/20] Add environment call-back and flags capability Tom Rini
2012-12-12  4:16                                           ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 01/20] Make linux kernel string funcs available to tools Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 02/20] env: Refactor do_apply to a flag Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 03/20] env: Consolidate common code in hsearch_r() Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 04/20] env: Refactor apply into change_ok Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 05/20] env: Use getenv_yesno() more generally Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 06/20] env: Hide '.' variables in env print by default Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 07/20] env: Add support for callbacks to environment vars Joe Hershberger
2013-01-11  8:06                                               ` Stefan Roese
2013-01-14 23:23                                                 ` Joe Hershberger
2013-01-15  6:51                                                   ` Stefan Roese
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 08/20] env: Add a command to view callbacks Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 09/20] env: Add a bootfile env handler Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 10/20] env: Add a baudrate " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 11/20] env: Add a loadaddr " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 12/20] env: Add a console " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 13/20] env: Add a silent " Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 14/20] env: Add environment variable flags Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 15/20] tools/env: Add environment variable flags support Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 16/20] env: Add a command to display details about env flags Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 17/20] env: Add support for access control to .flags Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 18/20] env: Add setenv force support Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 19/20] env: Implement the env delete command Joe Hershberger
2012-12-12  4:16                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 20/20] env: Handle write-once ethaddr and serial# generically Joe Hershberger
2012-12-14 16:05                                             ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v5 0/20] Add environment call-back and flags capability Tom Rini
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/12] env: acl: Add support for access control to env ACL Joe Hershberger
2012-08-17 20:49                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 12/12] env: cosmetic: Consilidate the default env definition Joe Hershberger
2012-08-23  3:44                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-10-03 19:38                               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 0/5] Cleanup fw_*env and a few common env Joe Hershberger
2012-10-03 19:38                                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/5] tools/env: Use a board-specific default env Joe Hershberger
2012-10-03 19:38                                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 2/5] tools/env: Remove unneeded complexity Joe Hershberger
2012-10-03 19:38                                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 3/5] tools/env: Don't call env_init() in fw_getenv() Joe Hershberger
2012-10-03 19:38                                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 4/5] tools/env: Serialize calls to fw_*env Joe Hershberger
2012-10-03 23:24                                   ` uboot at lukaperkov.net
2012-10-04 18:31                                     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH] tools: Add a README note about fw_printenv lock file Joe Hershberger
2012-10-03 19:38                                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 5/5] env: Check for NULL pointer in envmatch() Joe Hershberger
2012-10-09 17:13                                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 0/5] Cleanup fw_*env and a few common env Tom Rini

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