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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] ATMEL Custodians == /dev/null ??
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:51:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100809115142.763911536EF@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100809181318.5ec2ab8c@hskinnemoen-d830>

Dear Haavard Skinnemoen,

In message <20100809181318.5ec2ab8c@hskinnemoen-d830> you wrote:
>
> > First, I have poked them a number of times, both on and off list.
> 
> I haven't received any such pokes from you in a long time.

I'm not talking about you here. You have clearly indicated that you
resign as custodian, which I have accepted.  So why should I poke you?

> I used to be subscribed to a whole bunch of lists, but after hitting
> around 70,000 unread e-mail, I decided to unsubscribe from most of
> them, including u-boot and LKML.
> 
> Of course, this is also the main reason why I wanted to resign as a
> custodian; I felt I hadn't been able to do a proper job for some time.
> But this makes it especially odd that I wasn't Cc'd on the discussion
> about custodianship.

A custodian who is not subscried on the mailing list?  How is this
supposed to work?  I have to admit that I never expected somebody
would come up with such a concept.


> > Third, there have been patches posted that clearly fall in their
> > domain, and there is zero response: no comment, no activity in the
> > custodian directory, no pull request, nothing.
> 
> If I wasn't Cc'd, that would explain it. Of course, it's always best if

It has never been a requirement to Cc: the custodian. It is up to the
custodian to pick up the work that falls into hiw bailiwick,
including for example global changes that happen to affect his
architecture / subsystem. Of course this requires that you are
subscribed. And that you actually *read* the list, at leats to the
extend that you recognize certain buzzwords in the Subject: lines,
like the name of the architure you feel responsible for.

> maintainers follow all relevant mailing lists, but sometimes it's just
> not an option, not if you're working on several other projects besides
> u-boot.

Your idea of working as a maintainer is very much different from mine,
and from the actual requirements for the job.

> Thanks, I'll have a look at those. Please forgive me for following the
> link on your mailserver ;-)

mailman has certain restrictions and limitations, but I'm not an
expert in that field. If you know better solutions, then suggestions
are welcome.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-09 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-29  2:02 [U-Boot] ATMEL Custodians == /dev/null ?? Reinhard Meyer
2010-07-29  4:18 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-03 21:28   ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-08-05  9:14     ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-08-05 10:13       ` Andreas Bießmann
2010-08-05 10:44         ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-08-05 12:03       ` Eric Bénard
2010-08-05 16:16       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-05 18:27         ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-08-07  0:01         ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-08-07  0:20           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-07  0:58             ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-08-07  3:39               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-07 21:29                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-08-07 21:25           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-08-07 21:24       ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-08-07 23:19         ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-08-07 23:44           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-08  0:07           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-08-05 13:21     ` Bas Mevissen
2010-08-07 22:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-09  1:27   ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2010-08-09  5:59     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-09  6:29       ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2010-08-09  6:36         ` Mike Frysinger
2010-08-09  8:13         ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-08-09 11:13           ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2010-08-09 11:51             ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2010-08-09 15:48               ` Haavard Skinnemoen

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