From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Update and Cut down mach types
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:32:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110426213200.2F204D52705@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DB72D4A.5070102@aribaud.net>
Dear Albert ARIBAUD,
In message <4DB72D4A.5070102@aribaud.net> you wrote:
>
> Well, as you stated yourself recently, why would/should we maintain
> mach-types that are apparently not going to be used? Do machine types
> have other uses than for Linux? No code in U-Boot should worry about the
> mach-id if not for Linux.
Well, in principle you are of course right.
But I am well aware that there is a ton of Linux BSPs out there which
have never been pushed upstream into mainline by their respective
creators for some reason or another. Also I see a chance that other
uses of the mach-ids might exist - the Linux ARM folks have, fro a
very long time, always explained what a clever idea this is to
describe hardware features.
I hesitate to cut off all these exitisting or even potential users
lightly, when there is a solution that works reasonably well for them
and, at the same time, brings only minimal maintenance burdon for us.
> Also, if we still decide to maintain our own list of mach-types, we will
> need some rule to decide when to remove mach-types from this special
> list eventually. Otherwise, it'll become asymptotically identical to the
> full lits that is also availabe, and then, what would be the point of
> maintaining our own?
That rule can be simple: we will only allow to add the now existing
(in U-Boot mainline code) mach-ids, so this list should not grow
further after the initial creation. OK, ther eis a slight chance that
any newly added boards (to U-Boot) will get removed from the Linux
master file later, but I consider this a small risk - especially as I
expect to see more and ore device-tree based ARM ports quickly, so the
whole mach-id thing becomes less and less of a pain.
> So IMO, if we have mach-types in U-Boot for supporting Linux, then we
> should keep using a (reasonably) up-to-date Linux machine ID list just
> like we do now -- mach-types that disappear from the list mean Linux
> support has become useless for that machine in U-Boot. And if we have
> our own mach-type policy, different from "has linux support", then we
> need to specify what this policy is and how it is implemented.
I think we should be gentle to users of existing code and avoid
breaking it. From now on, we could establish a policy that a mach-id
can only be referenced when and as long mainline Linux support for
this board exists.
I'm open for suggestions.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-26 21:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-19 12:42 [U-Boot] Update and Cut down mach types Paulraj, Sandeep
2011-04-19 13:39 ` Matthias Weißer
2011-04-19 13:45 ` Paulraj, Sandeep
2011-04-20 8:44 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-04-19 14:21 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-04-19 18:42 ` Matthias Weisser
2011-04-19 18:44 ` Michael Schwingen
2011-04-20 8:15 ` Detlev Zundel
2011-04-20 8:58 ` Igor Grinberg
2011-04-20 17:15 ` Michael Schwingen
2011-04-20 17:49 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-04-20 19:26 ` Michael Schwingen
2011-04-21 11:39 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-04-26 18:14 ` Michael Schwingen
2011-04-26 19:40 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-04-26 20:38 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-04-26 21:32 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2011-04-26 21:38 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-04-27 10:19 ` Michael Schwingen
2011-04-28 6:20 ` Igor Grinberg
2011-04-29 8:58 ` Detlev Zundel
2011-05-01 10:10 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] arm: omap: innovator: fix compilation error Igor Grinberg
2011-05-17 12:40 ` Igor Grinberg
2011-05-21 21:40 ` Paulraj, Sandeep
2011-05-01 10:10 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/3] arm: omap: innovator: Prepare for mach-types.h changes Igor Grinberg
2011-05-01 20:28 ` Alessandro Rubini
2011-05-02 7:18 ` Igor Grinberg
2011-05-03 10:08 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 " Igor Grinberg
2011-05-03 12:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-03 13:00 ` Igor Grinberg
2011-05-04 7:13 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Igor Grinberg
2011-05-01 10:10 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] arm: at91: ether: " Igor Grinberg
2011-05-01 19:38 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-02 7:29 ` Igor Grinberg
2011-05-02 10:09 ` Detlev Zundel
2011-05-02 12:49 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 " Igor Grinberg
2011-05-16 13:31 ` Igor Grinberg
2011-04-27 11:44 ` [U-Boot] Update and Cut down mach types Detlev Zundel
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