From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 00/16] [Timer]API Rewrite
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:41:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110714194122.68CD31593511@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E1CF2E0.1030702@comcast.net>
Dear "J. William Campbell",
In message <4E1CF2E0.1030702@comcast.net> you wrote:
>
> Yes, this is true. However, the time_elapsed_since routine can do
> this dynamically (i.e. add twice the timer resolution) . I think you had
That would IMHO be a very bad idea. We have a number of places where
we have to deal with pretty long timeouts (usually because of protocol
specifications that require this - often in the order of several
seconds), where the normal path is very fast. The typical approach is
to break the timeout into a large number of very short loops.
Sometimes we use udelay() for this, other places use get_timer().
So assume we have a timeout of 5 seconds, and implement this as 50,000
loops of 100 microseconds. If you silently turn each of these into 20
milliseconds on NIOS, the timeout would become 1,000 seconds instead
of 5 - users would return boards as broken and report "it just
freezes" because nobody expects that it will wake up again after some
16 minutes.
> another function name (at_least) involved, but you can define
> time_elapsed_since as always compensating for the resolution. That will
> fix any resolution questions in a processor-specific way. It is either
> that or the ifdefs. One way or another, the resolution must be
> addressed. Up to now, the implicit resolution has been 1 ms, but we now
> know that is not general enough.
It's not as simple as this. You have to change a lot of code to make
this work for such slow clock systems.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-28 11:40 [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 00/16] [Timer]API Rewrite Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 01/16] [Timer]Fix misuse of ARM *timer_masked() functions outside arch/arm Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 12:35 ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-11 21:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-14 17:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-14 19:50 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-14 23:24 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-15 6:31 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 7:00 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-15 12:16 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/7]Timer: Fix " Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 8:40 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-16 8:59 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:12 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-16 9:31 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:58 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-06-28 11:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 02/16] [Timer]Remove calls to set_timer outside arch/ Graeme Russ
2011-07-11 21:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 12:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 2/7]Timer: Remove " Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Graeme Russ
2011-07-26 12:52 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28 11:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 03/16] [Timer]Remove calls to set_timer in arch/ Graeme Russ
2011-07-11 21:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 12:18 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 3/7]Timer: Remove set_timer completely Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Graeme Russ
2011-07-26 12:52 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28 11:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 04/16] [Timer]Allow reset_timer() only for Nios2 Graeme Russ
2011-07-11 22:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 12:18 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 4/7]Timer: Allow reset_timer() only for systems with low resolution timers Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:35 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Graeme Russ
2011-07-26 12:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28 11:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 05/16] [Timer]Remove reset_timer() for non-Nios2 arches Graeme Russ
2011-07-11 22:02 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 0:01 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-15 12:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 5/7]Timer: Remove " Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:36 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Graeme Russ
2011-07-26 12:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-08-19 21:24 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-08-19 22:55 ` Graeme Russ
2011-08-19 23:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-28 19:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28 11:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 06/16] [Timer]Fix at91rm9200/spi.c timer usage Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 12:30 ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-07-15 12:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 6/7]Timer: Fix " Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:37 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Graeme Russ
2011-07-26 12:54 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 07/16] [Timer]Remove reset_timer_masked() Graeme Russ
2011-07-11 22:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 12:21 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 7/7]Timer: Remove reset_timer_masked() Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:38 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 " Graeme Russ
2011-07-26 12:54 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 08/16] [Timer]Create new userland timer API Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 4:31 ` Simon Glass
2011-06-29 4:36 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 4:48 ` Simon Glass
2011-07-11 22:05 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-11 22:32 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 09/16] [Timer]Replace get_timer() usage in drivers/block/ Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 4:40 ` Simon Glass
2011-06-29 5:06 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-06-29 5:19 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 5:30 ` Simon Glass
2011-06-29 5:38 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 10/16] [Timer]Replace get_timer() usage in driver/mtd and driver/block Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 11/16] [Timer]Remove reset_timer() completely Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 12/16] [Timer]Replace get_timer() usage in drivers/ Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 12:36 ` Vitaly Kuzmichev
2011-06-28 23:03 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 13/16] [Timer]Replace get_timer() usage in net/ Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 14/16] [Timer]Replace get_timer() usage in common/ Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 15/16] [Timer]Replace get_timer() usage in board/ Graeme Russ
2011-06-28 11:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 16/16] [Timer]Replace get_timer() usage in arch/ Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 4:45 ` Simon Glass
2011-06-29 4:51 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 5:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-29 5:26 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-29 5:29 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 4:54 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v1 (WIP) 00/16] [Timer]API Rewrite Graeme Russ
2011-06-29 5:08 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-06-29 5:20 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-08 0:25 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-09 6:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-11 21:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-11 22:49 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-11 23:36 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-12 2:17 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-12 8:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-12 10:36 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-12 13:10 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-12 15:23 ` Scott McNutt
2011-07-12 17:27 ` J. William Campbell
2011-07-13 0:29 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-14 19:30 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-17 1:51 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-12 14:30 ` J. William Campbell
2011-07-12 16:08 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-07-13 0:33 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-13 1:20 ` J. William Campbell
2011-07-14 19:41 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2011-07-14 23:52 ` J. William Campbell
2011-07-15 7:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 18:08 ` J. William Campbell
2011-07-15 18:34 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-07-15 21:03 ` J. William Campbell
2011-07-16 14:11 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-15 12:15 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 0/7]Timer: Simplify API Graeme Russ
2011-07-15 13:08 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 8:36 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-16 9:01 ` Graeme Russ
2011-07-16 9:13 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-07-16 9:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
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