From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/5] NAND: Add scrub.quiet command option
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:02:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201109130302.16991.marek.vasut@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E6E94A6.1050601@freescale.com>
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 01:24:22 AM Scott Wood wrote:
> On 09/12/2011 02:42 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > On Monday, September 12, 2011 09:36:49 PM Scott Wood wrote:
> >> On 09/12/2011 02:28 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> >>> On Monday, September 12, 2011 09:19:06 PM Scott Wood wrote:
> >>>> What's it doing with them? Migrating them is something that should
> >>>> only happen on the first use, as there will later be data in the
> >>>> factory bad block area, right? So it shouldn't be "always".
> >>>> Migration should be an explicitly requested option. Like scrub. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Where is the code that does this? Which driver?
> >>>
> >>> The BCH accelerator does this.
> >>
> >> In hardware? What chip is this, and where is the code that drives this
> >> chip?
> >
> > I think it does something to it, yes. i.MX287, see the patchset [PATCH
> > 00/15 V2] Support for the DENX M28 SoM, [PATCH 09/15] iMX28: Add GPMI
> > NAND driver .
>
> I looked at the code and the datasheet, and without getting into it too
> deeply, I don't see how BCH is involved in an erase operation. What
> specifically are you seeing happen?
>
> The "Raw NAND Boot Mode" section (12.12 in my copy of the i.MX28 manual)
> says that it uses BCH for ECC -- is this not the case? Is it some
> special configuration of BCH?
>
> I tried reading the "Bad Block Handling in the ROM" section and got a
> headache.
12.12.1.8 is exactly it. See fig. 12-11. Also section 12.12.1.9 is interesting
(at least for the block 0 problem).
For the other problem, you should read chapter 15 and 16. Though they are not
completely beefed with information on that matter either.
I got most of these information from the source code FSL provided in their MX28
BSP. The usual flow is the driver uses DMA to send the commands/data to the GPMI
NAND driver. The GPMI NAND controller diverts the data to the BCH, which does
the bit obscurisation. Then the data are taken from the BCH and written to NAND.
And the other way in the read process ... GPMI NAND controller reads data back
from NAND, pushes them through the BCH and then presents them to the user.
The problem with erase here is that the block's ECC is updated on erase. But we
want to write a block in our own format, so we need to scrub (wipe the block
completely).
>
> I work for the PowerPC side of Freescale, in case you're wondering why
> I'm unfamiliar with this. :-)
Interesting ... does everyone work for the PowerPC side of Freescale or is there
some other reason why I never met anyone working for the ARM side of Freescale ?
;-)
>
> -Scott
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-13 1:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-12 4:04 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/5 V2] Random NAND fixes and improvements Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 4:04 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/5] NAND: Really ignore bad blocks when scrubbing Marek Vasut
2011-09-27 18:54 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 4:04 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/5] NAND: Add nand read.raw and write.raw commands Marek Vasut
2011-09-21 18:48 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-22 1:55 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/5 V2] " Marek Vasut
2011-09-22 16:03 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-22 18:36 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/5 V3] " Marek Vasut
2011-09-22 18:40 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-23 13:43 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/5 V4] " Marek Vasut
2011-09-27 18:57 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 4:04 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/5] NAND: Allow per-buffer allocation Marek Vasut
2011-09-21 18:50 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-21 19:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-09-21 19:55 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-21 20:16 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-09-22 1:34 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-22 7:41 ` Stefano Babic
2011-09-22 8:51 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-23 17:35 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-24 12:37 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-26 18:33 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-26 18:49 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 4:04 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/5] NAND: Make page, erase, oob size available via cmd_nand Marek Vasut
2011-09-21 18:55 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-21 19:52 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-09-22 1:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/5 V2] " Marek Vasut
2011-09-27 19:01 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-27 19:38 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-27 19:51 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-27 20:07 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-27 20:53 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-27 21:04 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-27 21:14 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 4:04 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/5] NAND: Add scrub.quiet command option Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 16:45 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-12 17:45 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 18:06 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 18:24 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 18:31 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 18:36 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 19:19 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 19:28 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 19:36 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 19:42 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 23:24 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-13 1:02 ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2011-09-13 4:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-09-13 4:36 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-13 22:22 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-13 22:41 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-13 22:53 ` Scott Wood
2011-09-12 18:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-09-12 18:50 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 20:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-12 22:59 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-13 22:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/5] NAND: Add -y option to nand scrub command Marek Vasut
2011-09-13 22:28 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-09-27 19:03 ` Scott Wood
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-09-08 20:39 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/5] Random NAND fixes and improvements Marek Vasut
2011-09-08 20:39 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/5] NAND: Add scrub.quiet command option Marek Vasut
2011-09-09 15:39 ` Detlev Zundel
2011-09-10 20:54 ` Marek Vasut
2011-09-12 9:49 ` Detlev Zundel
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