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From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/3] image: Make image_get_fdt work like image_get_{ram_disk, kernel}
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:41:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201111052141.27086.marek.vasut@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ0r26qEEsUL5YwuDU65qfTi=kAsxSRJF9o6140jd5tUPg@mail.gmail.com>

> Hi Marek,
> 
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> image_get_ram_disk() and image_get_kernel() perform operations in a
> >> >> consistent order. Modify image_get_fdt() to do things the same way.
> >> >> This allows a later change to insert some image header manipulations
> >> >> into these three functions in a consistent fashion.
> >> >> 
> >> >> v2: New patch
> >> >> 
> >> >> Signed-off-by: Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>
> >> > 
> >> > Hi Stephen,
> >> > 
> >> > this patchset is good and all, but can we not also introduce cmd_zload
> >> > to load zImages? Wolfgang, today's ARM hardware will really benefit
> >> > from that, uImage holds us back a lot these days. Other option is to
> >> > extend cmd_bootm() to load zImages.
> >> > 
> >> > Cheers
> >> 
> >> Just a quick Q. What is the ultimate intent here? Should we be aiming
> >> to have U-Boot copy and decompress the data into RAM ready for Linux?
> > 
> > Nope, not at all. We have a problem with booting linux images which
> > support multiple different SoCs (because the RAM might be elsewhere for
> > different SoCs).
> > 
> >> In theory this should be slightly faster since U-Boot already has the
> >> data in its cache. I think zImage now supports having an FDT inside
> >> but what is the advantage of zImage over a uImage with compressed
> >> portions?
> > 
> > That's not the point. We need to load FDT, load zImage, setup the regs
> > and boot it from where we load the zImage. The uImage envelope contains
> > fixed address to where the kernel image is loaded, which interferes with
> > kernel's runtime patching of the kernel base address (zreladdr).
> > 
> > Basically kernel can be loaded to address A1 on one SoC, address A2 on
> > different SoC, but in the old times, the kernel had to be linked to a
> > predefined address. That's not true anymore. Now if kernel is loaded to
> > address A1, it adjusts itself and runs from A1, so for A2 etc.
> > 
> > uImage blocks this because it forces u-boot to copy zImage to fixed
> > address.
> 
> Stephen's patch set should fix that by allowing an unspecified load address
> .
> 
> So this means that we are fine if we use a zImage, but what about a
> uImage? Are we giving up on that altogether? Stephen's original patch
> on this subject seemed to me to solve the problem with uImage (the one
> he had all the code size grief with).

I'd be more open to adding some kind of a flag to uImage, rather than using 
address 0xffffffff. For this is quite fragile and seems a lot like a hack.
> 
> Can't we commit both of Stephen's patches? It seems to me that they
> solve different problems.

Yes, 1/3 and 2/3 look good.
> 
> Regards,
> Simon
> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Simon

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-05 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-01 16:28 [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/3] image: Make image_get_fdt work like image_get_{ram_disk, kernel} Stephen Warren
2011-11-01 16:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 2/3] image: Support FDTs already loaded at their load address Stephen Warren
2012-03-06 21:18   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-01 16:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 3/3] image: Allow images to indicate they're loadable at any address Stephen Warren
2011-11-05 22:20   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 16:56     ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 17:09       ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 19:47         ` Simon Glass
2011-11-07 20:29           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 21:17           ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 22:11             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 22:30               ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 23:08                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08  0:00                   ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08  0:27                     ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found]     ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173F9A5035@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com>
2011-11-07 20:26       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 21:04         ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-07 21:38           ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 21:59             ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-07 22:08               ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 22:27           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 22:41             ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 23:10               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 23:43                 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 22:57             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-07 23:25               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08  0:10                 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08  0:29                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08  0:48                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08  8:38                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 11:35                         ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-08 11:50                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 11:52                             ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-08 18:17                             ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                             ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173F9A5424@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com>
2011-11-08 19:44                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 21:17                                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 22:27                                   ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08 22:46                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08  0:35                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08  1:10                   ` Simon Glass
2011-11-08  3:51                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08  5:37                       ` Simon Glass
2011-11-08  8:45                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 14:22                         ` Loïc Minier
2011-11-08 14:52                       ` Jason
2011-11-08 20:18                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-12-10 22:42                     ` Linus Walleij
2011-12-10 22:53                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-12-10 23:21                         ` Linus Walleij
2011-12-12 16:25                       ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08  8:33                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 14:26                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08 15:01                       ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-08 15:59                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 16:57                         ` Detlev Zundel
2011-11-08 20:05                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-07 21:27         ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 21:41           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-07 22:42             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 18:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/3] image: Make image_get_fdt work like image_get_{ram_disk, kernel} Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 19:21   ` Simon Glass
2011-11-05 19:39     ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 20:38       ` Simon Glass
2011-11-05 20:41         ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2011-11-05 20:49           ` Simon Glass
2011-11-05 22:15           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:18             ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 22:06       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 21:53     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:06       ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 22:22         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-06  4:52       ` Simon Glass
2011-11-06  8:57         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 21:40   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:06     ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 22:24       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:38         ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-08 14:24   ` Loïc Minier
2011-11-08 16:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 18:15   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]   ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173F9A5415@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com>
2011-11-08 19:33     ` Wolfgang Denk

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