From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 3/3] image: Allow images to indicate they're loadable at any address
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:35:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201111081235.05464.marek.vasut@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111108083840.40E5113BE08A@gemini.denx.de>
> Dear Nicolas Pitre,
>
> In message <alpine.LFD.2.02.1111071942150.3307@xanadu.home> you wrote:
> > > But as you said yourself, the (raw) kernel is not relocatable. It
> > > gets loaded and started at pre-defined (at image build time)
> > > addresses. Only the kernel wrapper adds the complexity you are
> > > complaining about. Drop it, then.
> >
> > Many of us insist on preserving that complexity. From our point of
> > view, it is u-Boot which is too complex and should drop its uImage
> > complexity.
>
> Insisting without giving explanations about the reasons is not exactly
> a constructive form of a discussion. Actually it is no discussion at
> all.
Ok, so guys ... let me ask a stupid question:
Will it be a problem to extend bootm (if not already done) to load zImages
directly, with -z option for example ? Won't that satisty both parties --
Wolfgang because the "better" solution will still be there (uImage) -- and Nico
so he can load his "worse" solution (zImage).
And please don't flame me about this "worse" and "better" stuff, you get the
idea.
M
>
> > But instead of asking you to drop u-Boot's complexity, I'm only asking
> > for u-Boot to let both methods to coexist and work.
>
> Ok, we can make a deal on such a base. See the suggestion inmy
> previous message.
>
> > Given that the zImage "complexity" is not going away because we insist
> > on keeping it, either we find a middle ground such as Stephen's patches,
> > or we advocate for a different bootloader on ARM.
> >
> > Do you never happend to compromize once in a while?
>
> In my understanding, compromize is not a one-sided business.
>
> It is actually easy to convince me, but it needs facts and arguments,
> not mere insisting on preconceived statements or plain extortion.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-08 11:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-01 16:28 [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/3] image: Make image_get_fdt work like image_get_{ram_disk, kernel} Stephen Warren
2011-11-01 16:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 2/3] image: Support FDTs already loaded at their load address Stephen Warren
2012-03-06 21:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-01 16:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 3/3] image: Allow images to indicate they're loadable at any address Stephen Warren
2011-11-05 22:20 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 16:56 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 17:09 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 19:47 ` Simon Glass
2011-11-07 20:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 21:17 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 22:11 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 22:30 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 23:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 0:00 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08 0:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173F9A5035@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com>
2011-11-07 20:26 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 21:04 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-07 21:38 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 21:59 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-07 22:08 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 22:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 22:41 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 23:10 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-07 23:43 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 22:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-07 23:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 0:10 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08 0:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 0:48 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08 8:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 11:35 ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2011-11-08 11:50 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 11:52 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-08 18:17 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173F9A5424@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com>
2011-11-08 19:44 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 21:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 22:27 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08 22:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 0:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08 1:10 ` Simon Glass
2011-11-08 3:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08 5:37 ` Simon Glass
2011-11-08 8:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 14:22 ` Loïc Minier
2011-11-08 14:52 ` Jason
2011-11-08 20:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-12-10 22:42 ` Linus Walleij
2011-12-10 22:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-12-10 23:21 ` Linus Walleij
2011-12-12 16:25 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-08 8:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 14:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-08 15:01 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-08 15:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 16:57 ` Detlev Zundel
2011-11-08 20:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-07 21:27 ` Stephen Warren
2011-11-07 21:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-11-07 22:42 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 18:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/3] image: Make image_get_fdt work like image_get_{ram_disk, kernel} Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 19:21 ` Simon Glass
2011-11-05 19:39 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 20:38 ` Simon Glass
2011-11-05 20:41 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 20:49 ` Simon Glass
2011-11-05 22:15 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:18 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 22:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 21:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:06 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 22:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-06 4:52 ` Simon Glass
2011-11-06 8:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 21:40 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:06 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-05 22:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-05 22:38 ` Marek Vasut
2011-11-08 14:24 ` Loïc Minier
2011-11-08 16:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-11-08 18:15 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF173F9A5415@HQMAIL01.nvidia.com>
2011-11-08 19:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
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