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From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] Prevent malloc with size 0
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 02:13:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201204020213.07816.marek.vasut@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALButCKnA4Fmp5aqnFS00WFKT-6WvPyNiDW_cnBc2y+kc_YjwA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Graeme Russ,

> Hi Marek,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Graeme Russ,
> > 
> >> Hi All
> >> 
> >> Here we go again ;)
> > 
> > Yay (polishing my flamethrower)!
> > 
> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Dear Joakim Tjernlund,
> >> > 
> >> >> Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com> wrote on 2012/04/01 16:01:56:
> >> >> > Dear Joakim Tjernlund,
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > > > Dear Mike Frysinger,
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > > > On Thursday, October 21, 2010 17:10:31 Graeme Russ wrote:
> >> >> > > > > > On 22/10/10 06:51, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >> >> > > > > > > have u-boot return an error.
> >> >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > > > > Is NULL what you consider to be an error
> >> >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > > > yes
> >> >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > > > > Besides, is not free(NULL) valid (does nothing) as well?
> >> >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > > > yes, free(NULL) should work fine per POSIX
> >> >> > > > > -mike
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > > Well then, this patch wasn't accepted yet and I consider it OK
> >> >> > > > to apply. Any objections?
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > There was a long debate on the list regarding this where I argued
> >> >> > > that malloc(0) should not be an error and malloc should return a
> >> >> > > ptr != NULL I guess that is why it hasn't been applied.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > >  Jocke
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Ok, let's restart. Is there any objection why malloc(0) should not
> >> >> > return NULL in uboot?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Yes, read the thread to see why.
> >> > 
> >> > Well I did, that's why I have no objections to applying this patch
> >> > 
> >> >> > Is it coliding with any spec?
> >> >> 
> >> >> No, both are valid.
> >> 
> >> <quote author="Reinhard Meyer">
> >> Out of principle I would say that malloc(0) should return a non-NULL
> >> pointer of an area where exactly 0 bytes may be used. And, of course,
> >> free() of that area shall not fail or crash the system.
> >> </quote>
> >> 
> >> I'm wondering how exactly this would work - In theory, if you tried to
> >> access this pointer you should get a segv. But I suppose if you
> >> malloc(1) and try to access beyond the first byte there probably won't
> >> be a segv either....
> >> 
> >> So to review the facts:
> >> 
> >> - The original complaint was that malloc(0) corrupts the malloc data
> >>   structures, not that U-Boot's malloc(0) behaviour is non-standard
> >> - Both the malloc(0) returns NULL and malloc(0) returns a uniquely
> >>   free'able block of memory solutions are standard compliant
> >> - malloc(0) returning NULL may break code which, for the sake of code
> >>   simplicity, does not bother to check for zero-size before calling
> >>   malloc()
> > 
> > Well but you said malloc(0) corrupts the mallocator's data structures.
> > Therefore malloc(0) used in code right now is broken anyway.
> 
> Correct, but the breakage is in malloc() not the caller

And what are the consequences of such a breakage?

> >> - malloc(0) returning NULL may help to identify brain-dead use-cases
> > 
> > Agreed.
> > 
> >> My vote:
> >> 
> >>         if ((long)bytes == 0) {
> >>                 DEBUG("Warning: malloc of zero block size\n");
> >>                 bytes = 1;
> > 
> > Well ... no, how can malloc(0) returning NULL break code that's already
> > broken any more? It's silently roughing the mallocator structures up and
> > it means the code is sitting on a ticking a-bomb anyway.
> > 
> > So we should add this like:
> > 
> > if (bytes == 0) {
> >        debug("You're sitting on a ticking A-Bomb doing this");
> 
> Because you just set it off - Right now, that code is assuming malloc(0)
> will return a valid pointer and thus not throw an E_NOMEM error - Now
> all that code will fail with E_NOMEM

Well ... that code worked with invalid memory (most probably not even R/W 
because it was some completely random hunk) and worked only by sheer 
coincidence. Let's break it, it was broken anyway.

Do you know about any such code? That's why I suggest adding such a debug() only 
in case there's malloc(0) called. Maybe even add a printf() instead.

> >        return NULL;
> > } else if (bytes < 0) {
> >        return NULL;
> > }
> > 
> >>         } else if ((long)bytes < 0) {
> >>                 DEBUG("Error: malloc of negative block size\n");
> >>                 return 0;
> >>         }
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Graeme

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-02  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-21  9:24 [U-Boot] [PATCH] Prevent malloc with size 0 Kostaras Nikolaos
2010-10-21 11:25 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 11:32   ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-21 11:45     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 11:51       ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-21 11:56         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 12:02           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-21 12:54             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-21 19:51       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-21 21:10         ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-21 21:27           ` Mike Frysinger
2012-03-31 19:59             ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 12:25               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-01 14:01                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 14:15                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-01 14:21                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 22:40                       ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-01 23:45                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-01 23:52                           ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  0:13                             ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2012-04-02  0:25                               ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  1:04                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  1:40                                   ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  2:51                                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  3:05                                       ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  6:39                                         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02  3:12                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-02  3:16                                   ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  3:36                                   ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  3:43                                     ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  4:23                                       ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02  4:27                                         ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  6:55                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02  7:17                                         ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  7:40                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 14:05                                             ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 14:26                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 14:42                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 15:08                                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 15:23                                                     ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 16:00                                                       ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 16:39                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 17:22                                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 18:00                                                             ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 18:40                                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 19:14                                                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-02 21:02                                                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 19:23                                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-04-02 20:28                                             ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02 20:56                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 20:59                                                 ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02 21:14                                                   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-04-02 23:35                                                     ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-03 10:35                                                       ` Graeme Russ
2012-10-16  6:31                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-10-16  9:22                                                           ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-10-16 10:43                                                             ` Marek Vasut
2012-10-16 11:46                                                               ` Joakim Tjernlund
2012-10-16 10:43                                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-10-16 22:41                                                             ` Graeme Russ
2012-04-02  3:10                         ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-02  3:36                           ` Marek Vasut
2010-10-22  6:10         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22  7:18           ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-22  7:47             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22  7:20           ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-22  7:37             ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22  7:55               ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-22  8:34                 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22 15:18                   ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-22 16:40                     ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22 17:06                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-10-23  9:14                         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-22 17:36                 ` Scott Wood
2010-10-23  9:23                   ` Joakim Tjernlund

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