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From: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/9] CACHE: nand read/write: Test if start address is aligned
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:38:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201206260138.47600.marex@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120625184354.GA6377@bill-the-cat>

Dear Tom Rini,

> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:58:10AM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > On 06/24/2012 07:17 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > This prevents the scenario where data cache is on and the
> > > device uses DMA to deploy data. In that case, it might not
> > > be possible to flush/invalidate data to RAM properly. The
> > > other option is to use bounce buffer,
> > 
> > Or get cache coherent hardware. :-)
> > 
> > > but that involves a lot of copying and therefore degrades performance
> > > rapidly. Therefore disallow this possibility of unaligned load
> > > address altogether if data cache is on.
> > 
> > How about use the bounce buffer only if the address is misaligned?  The
> > corrective action a user has to take is the same as with this patch,
> > except for an additional option of living with the slight performance
> > penalty.  How often does this actually happen?  How much does it
> > actually slow things down compared to the speed of the NAND chip?
> 
> We would need to architect things such that any 'load' command would be
> routed through this logic.  A solvable problem for sure, but a little
> bit larger than just for NAND :)

It's not only NAND, it's the whole user interface that's broken right now.

> > I'm hesitant to break something -- even if it's odd (literally in this
> > case) -- that currently works on most hardware, just because one or two
> > drivers can't handle it.  It feels kind of like changing the read() and
> > write() system calls to require cacheline alignment. :-P
> 
> I don't want to get into an ARM vs PowerPC argument.

ARM is better anyway :-D

> I think the best
> answer is that I'm not sure having things unaligned works totally right
> today as I did a silly test of loading a uImage to 0x82000001 and bootm
> hung inside of U-Boot not long ago.  Can you try that on some cache
> coherent hardware and see if that works?

+1

[...]

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-25 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-25  0:17 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/9] CACHE: Finishing touches Marek Vasut
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/9] COMMON: Add __stringify() function Marek Vasut
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/9] CACHE: Add cache_aligned() macro Marek Vasut
2012-06-25 21:12   ` Scott Wood
2012-06-25 23:30     ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-07  3:00       ` Aneesh V
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/9] CACHE: ext2load: Test if start address is aligned Marek Vasut
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/9] CACHE: fatload: " Marek Vasut
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/9] CACHE: mmc read/write: " Marek Vasut
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/9] CACHE: nand " Marek Vasut
2012-06-25 16:58   ` Scott Wood
2012-06-25 18:43     ` Tom Rini
2012-06-25 20:08       ` Scott Wood
2012-06-25 20:48         ` Tom Rini
2012-06-25 21:17           ` Scott Wood
2012-06-25 21:22             ` Tom Rini
2012-06-25 23:42             ` Marek Vasut
2012-06-26  0:37               ` Scott Wood
2012-06-26  1:16                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-06-26 19:38                   ` Scott Wood
2012-06-25 23:38       ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2012-06-25 23:37     ` Marek Vasut
2012-06-25 23:57       ` Scott Wood
2012-06-26  1:33         ` Marek Vasut
2012-06-26 19:25           ` Scott Wood
2012-06-26 20:39             ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-07  3:05   ` Aneesh V
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 7/9] CACHE: net: " Marek Vasut
2012-06-25 18:05   ` Joe Hershberger
2012-06-25 23:16     ` Marek Vasut
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 8/9] CACHE: net: asix: Fix asix driver to work with data cache on Marek Vasut
2012-06-25 18:07   ` Joe Hershberger
2012-06-25 23:16     ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-06 23:09     ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-06 23:16       ` Marek Vasut
2012-06-25  0:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 9/9] M28EVK: Enable instruction and data cache Marek Vasut

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