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From: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Notes from the U-Boot BOF Meeting in Geneva 2012/07/12
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:46:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201207211646.51482.marex@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALButCLay8gUfAJEcYK6FHDHN6drPc_DO4khykg2XSsEgPGrWA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Graeme Russ,

[...]

> >> Maybe it's time to seriously look at a gerrit + jenkins based solution?
> > 
> > I am not sure that gerrit will solve any of the problems we have.
> > I may be missing it, but for example I don't see any integration into
> > a mostly e-mail based work flow.  From what I have seen so far (which
> > is not much, I admit) it appears we would again add another tool that
> > in the first place requires additional steps which interrupt the work
> > flow. Speaking for myself, this is a killing point.
> 
> There are a few things I don't like about gerrit:
>  - Not based on an email-centric workflow

+1

>  - Need to 'drill-down' to get to the actual patch
>  - UI is overly verbose

Add
- it's java crap, prone to breakage.
- it's overengineered

And ad. jenkins -- with all that plugins infrastructure, it's so vast it can 
even make coffee and bake a cake damned!

> But there are other things I do like:
>  - Maintains the revision history of each patch

If you follow some rules though :/

>  - Keeps track of review status

Not so usable tho

>  - Keeps track of the what branch the patch is against

Yes?

> Patchwork is GPL'd and, in my personal opinion, gets fairly close to what
> we might need. Maybe we could take Patchwork and modify it to suit our
> needs?

Maybe ... where're the sources?

> > And Jenkins... well, we have been using this for some time internally
> > to run test builds for U-Boot.  I can tell you a thing or two about
> > it, and Marek has his own story to tell about his experiences when he
> > added to the build matrix.
> > 
> > As is, we try hard to get rid of Jenkins, because it does not scale
> > well to the type of builds we want to be able to do.  Marek even
> > started setting up his own test build framework...
> 
> OK, so we already have a fair number of in-house tools that have been
> developed to get the job done. We have checkpatch.pl, patman, buildman (in
> development), and Marek's build framework. Why don't we look at integrating
> these - A modified Patchwork could:
>  - Automatically run checkpatch and test if the patch applies

But based on tags in the email header, so it'd know against which tree. This is 
doable, yes!

>  - Notify the build framework to trigger a build-test

Which might schedule vast MAKEALL across all arches, effectivelly clogging it 
very soon.

>  - Apply patches to repo's when the maintainer sends an 'Accepted-by:' to
>    the mailing list

Such email can be forged!

>  - Re-run apply and build tests when a maintainer issues a pull request

You mean when maintainer clicks "Submit pull RQ of this branch" ... then it's 
rebuild it and only after it passes submit the pullrq?

>  - Re-run the apply and build tests on all 'staged' patches when patches
>    are committed or branches are merged

Um, what do you mean here?

> I short, we have three options
>  - Modify our workflow so we can use existing tools
>  - Modify existing tools and/or create new tools to match our existing
>    workflow
>  - A bit of both
> 
> And remember, Linus wrote git because no other tool was available that
> exactly suited his needs
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Graeme

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-21 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-16 21:30 [U-Boot] Notes from the U-Boot BOF Meeting in Geneva 2012/07/12 Detlev Zundel
2012-07-16 23:11 ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-17 10:37   ` Stefan Roese
2012-07-17 12:10     ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-17 12:15       ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-18  7:21       ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-07-18 23:37         ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-21 14:46           ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2012-07-23  1:33             ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-23  1:47               ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-23  2:07                 ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-23  2:13                   ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-23  7:43                     ` Andy Pont
2012-07-23  6:27                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-07-23  6:20                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-07-23 21:16                   ` Tom Rini
2012-07-23 22:15                     ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]                       ` <500DD2FA.4060800@boundarydevices.com>
2012-07-23 23:06                         ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-23 23:37                           ` Eric Nelson
2012-07-23  6:16               ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-07-25 19:47                 ` Tom Rini
2012-07-27 14:17                   ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-20 22:51         ` Tom Rini
2012-07-21  1:27           ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-21  4:28             ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-23 16:49               ` Tom Rini
2012-07-23 16:44             ` Tom Rini
2012-07-23 17:17               ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-23 17:28                 ` Tom Rini
2012-07-23 18:11                   ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-23 19:09                     ` Tom Rini
2012-07-23 22:16                       ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-18  7:41   ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-07-20  3:57     ` Mike Frysinger
2012-07-21 14:40     ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-23 20:53       ` Tom Rini
2012-07-23 22:14         ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-20 16:36 ` Kim Phillips
2012-07-20 21:09   ` Marek Vasut
2012-07-20 21:34     ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-20 21:40       ` Scott Wood
2012-07-20 22:04         ` Graeme Russ
2012-07-21 14:41           ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-18  6:55       ` Simon Glass
2013-02-18  9:59         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-18 10:40           ` Graeme Russ
2013-02-18 12:39             ` Marek Vasut

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