From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Cache alignment warnings on Tegra (ARM)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:00:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120918190024.GA30851@avionic-0098.mockup.avionic-design.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201209182037.45113.marex@denx.de>
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 08:37:44PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> Dear Simon Glass,
>
> > Hi Thierry,
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Thierry Reding
> >
> > <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 02:39:01PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > >> Hi Thierry,
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Thierry Reding
> > >>
> > >> <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de> wrote:
> > >> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 07:45:30PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Thierry Reding
> > >> >>
> > >> >> <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de> wrote:
> > >> >> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:11:54PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > >> >> >> Dear Thierry Reding,
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 08:53:32AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > Hi,
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > > Dear Stephen Warren,
> > >> >> >> > > >
> > >> >> >> > > >> On 09/12/2012 04:38 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > >> > Dear Stephen Warren,
> > >> >> >> > > >> >
> > >> >> >> > > >> >> On 09/12/2012 10:19 AM, Tom Warren wrote:
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> Folks,
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>>
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> Stephen Warren has posted an internal bug regarding the
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> cache alignment 'warnings' seen on Tegra20 boards when
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> accessing MMC. Here's the gist:
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>>
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> Executing "mmc dev 0" still yields cache warnings:
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>>
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> Tegra20 (Harmony) # mmc dev 0
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> ERROR: v7_dcache_inval_range- stop address is not
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> aligned- 0x3fb69908 mmc0 is current device
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > > >> >> ...
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> There have been patches in the past (IIRC) that have
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> tried to ensure all callers (FS, MMC driver, USB
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> driver, etc.) force their buffers to the appropriate
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> alignment, but I don't know that we can ever correct
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> every instance, now or in the future.
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>>
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> Can we start a discussion about what we can do about
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> this warning? Adding an appropriate #ifdef
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> (CONFIG_SYS_NO_CACHE_ALIGNMENT_WARNINGS, etc.) where
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> Stephen put his #if 0's would be one approach, or
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> changing the printf() to a debug(), perhaps. As far as
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> I can tell, these alignment 'errors' don't seem to
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>> produce bad data in the transfer.
> > >> >> >> > > >> >>
> > >> >> >> > > >> >> I don't think simply turning off the warning is the
> > >> >> >> > > >> >> correct approach; I believe they represent real
> > >> >> >> > > >> >> problems that can in fact cause data corruption. I
> > >> >> >> > > >> >> don't believe we have any choice other than to fully
> > >> >> >> > > >> >> solve the root-cause.
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > > Yes I agree, and I think it is pretty close - certainly much
> > >> >> >> > > better than it used to be. The good thing about them being
> > >> >> >> > > annoying is that they will likely get fixed :-)
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > I think I traced this to the copying of CSD a while back. The
> > >> >> >> > problem is that the transferred buffer is 8 bytes, so there's
> > >> >> >> > no way to make it aligned properly. Unfortunately the entailing
> > >> >> >> > discussion did not yield a solution at the time.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> And how exactly does the MMC bounce buffer not help here?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The problem solved by the bounce buffer is that it is properly
> > >> >> > cache- line aligned. However the issue here is not that the buffer
> > >> >> > is not properly aligned but rather that the transfer is too small.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > When the MMC core transfers the SCR, it requests 8 bytes. The
> > >> >> > buffer used to store these 8 bytes is properly allocated. However,
> > >> >> > those 8 bytes eventually end up as the size of the range that is
> > >> >> > to be invalidated. This is the reason for the warning. Address x
> > >> >> > of the buffer is cache-line aligned, but x + 8 is never properly
> > >> >> > aligned and therefore the code complains.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Would it be too dreadful to define a minimum MMC transfer size, and
> > >> >> set that to the cache line size?
> > >> >
> > >> > I did try setting the data size to the cache line size back then, but
> > >> > that resulted in an error. After that I gave up. I think what we
> > >> > really need to do is separate the invalidation size from the transfer
> > >> > size in order to properly handle these situations. Or alternatively
> > >> > pass an additional buffer size so the code knows how much needs to be
> > >> > invalidated. AFAICT this is the only location where this actually
> > >> > happens. All other transfers are typically block sized so they'll be
> > >> > a multiple of the cache line anyway.
> > >>
> > >> I suppose the requirement is that the buffer size is large enough, and
> > >> is aligned. Even if fewer bytes are transferred than the size of the
> > >> buffer, that still solves the problem. As you say, if we had a way of
> > >> saying 'here is a 64-byte buffer but only 16 bytes need to be
> > >> transferred' then we would be good. If this is really just an MMC
> > >> problem then perhaps the fix can be localised there.
> > >
> > > At least on Tegra that is the only warning that I've seen. I guess a new
> > > member could be added to the struct mmc_data. Alternatively maybe an
> > > extra flag would be better, something like MMC_DATA_CACHE_ALIGNED. It
> > > could be passed anywhere where it is known that the buffer is properly
> > > sized but not a full cache line is transferred.
> >
> > Yes a flag sounds reasonable. Some will argue that this is messing
> > with low-level hardware features in a driver, but really it is just a
> > hint that no bounce buffer is needed. The driver is free to do what it
> > likes.
>
> What about user passing you unaligned data?
>
> I think I'm missing something here, I think I need a tegra20 board with this
> problem. I fail to see why the bounce buffer doesn't solve this.
The problem here is not that the user is passing unaligned data. Rather
the user, the MMC core in this case, passes a properly aligned buffer
that is too short (8 bytes), so that when the cache invalidation code is
called with the length of 8 bytes it complains that the end of the
buffer isn't properly aligned. The bounce buffer won't solve this
because, instead of the buffer size, the transfer size is passed to the
invalidation routine.
This is by no means Tegra specific. In fact every board that has proper
cache invalidation support should expose this problem.
Thierry
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-12 16:19 [U-Boot] Cache alignment warnings on Tegra (ARM) Tom Warren
2012-09-12 16:49 ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-12 22:38 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-12 23:10 ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-12 23:42 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 15:53 ` Simon Glass
2012-09-15 20:01 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-15 20:11 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-15 20:41 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-15 20:56 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-16 2:45 ` Simon Glass
2012-09-16 6:49 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-17 21:39 ` Simon Glass
2012-09-18 14:54 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-18 18:24 ` Simon Glass
2012-09-18 18:37 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-18 19:00 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2012-09-18 19:21 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-18 19:29 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-18 19:36 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-18 20:04 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-18 20:28 ` Simon Glass
2012-09-18 21:21 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-18 22:42 ` Simon Glass
2012-09-18 22:44 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-19 5:45 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-18 21:20 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-19 5:46 ` Thierry Reding
2012-09-15 20:19 ` Thierry Reding
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