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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] common: Link with GCC instead of LD
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:32:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121031233257.5F3F32005BD@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201210312351.35977.marex@denx.de>

Dear Marek,

In message <201210312351.35977.marex@denx.de> you wrote:
> 
> > Could you please explain these supposed benefits in a bit more detail?
> 
> Yes, thanks for the review (I really needed one from you on this)!
> 
> So, here comes the list:
> 1) It's cool to link with gcc, duh ;-)

Is it - and why exactly?

> 2) You can enable LTO eventually -- long term plan -- which proved can shrink 
> the code size a bit

Do you have a workign example?  You know, we don;t like adding dead
code...

> 3) Usage of LLVM/CLANG is now much more straightforward

Please elucidate?

> 4) Binutils usually lag behind the GCC development a bit, by using GCC to do the 
> link, we can remedy this problem

Grrrrghhhg.  I lost you here.  By not calling ld directly (where we
know exactly what we are doing), but through a (somewhat unknown) GCC
framework, we can magicly adjust any (claimed - by you) version
differences?   I cannot parse this.

> But actually, the 2) is the most important part. LTO will hopefully help us 
> optimize U-Boot for size even better than it is now. But that will still need 
> much more research. So this is only a patch that shall prepare the groundwork 
> for this further research.

As is, it's just unused or dead code that adds a lot of complexity and
buys nothing.  Please submit as part of a patch series that makes
successfull (and tested) use of LTO.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-31 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-31 16:32 [U-Boot] [PATCH] common: Link with GCC instead of LD Marek Vasut
2012-10-31 19:51 ` Andreas Bießmann
2012-10-31 20:52   ` Marek Vasut
2012-10-31 22:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-10-31 22:48   ` Tom Rini
2012-10-31 23:28     ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-10-31 23:39       ` Tom Rini
2012-10-31 22:51   ` Marek Vasut
2012-10-31 23:32     ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2012-10-31 23:45       ` Marek Vasut
2012-11-01  0:00         ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-01  0:06           ` Marek Vasut

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