From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/8] boottime: Add core boottime measurement support
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:03:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121121150332.GC28899@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121121134424.57C3B2003CF@gemini.denx.de>
> > Yes, I intend to extend this functionality into Device Tree.
> > That way it will be architecture and OS independent.
> >
> > > And forcing something upon a mechanism that was designed for a
> > > completely different purpose, where you see right from the first
> > > glance that it does not math easily?
> >
> > Not entirely sure what you mean here. This mechanism works
> > perfectly with ATAGs.
>
> Neither ATAGS not the device tree are intended nor designed for
> passing logfile information. Yes, you can use them like that, and it
> will actually work.
ATAGs were exactly designed for this type of thing. To pass small
data structures though to the kernel. In our case, our trace-points
are held in a small data structure. They're not logs.
> You can also drive a nail in using a microscope as hammer.
Ah good idea. I have to try this. ;)
> > > The advantages should be obvious: we will need no extra kernel
> > > modification, we do not depend on ATAGS, and we are automatically
> > > architecture-independent.
> >
> > Wouldn't this clog up the kernel's log buffer? I'm sure no
> > user wants to see reams of otherwise useless logging scrawled
> > throughout their bootlog. We'd also have a write a text parser
> > to obtain the information for processing. It would be easier
> > to either pass in a struct, as we do with the ATAG mechanism,
> > or though Device Tree as previously discussed.
>
> I think these are pretty poor arguments. There are standard methods
> (like log levels) to provide adequate filtering of which messages are
> passed on to a user. An there exists a plethora of tools for
> automatic filtering and post-processing of syslog messages. You will
> need to write _less_ code than with your homebrew implementation.
They're not poor augments if the data stored isn't log messages,
which these aren't. If anything I would say that ramming them in as
textual kernel messages, then parsing the log text using a userspace
tool was an abuse of the system. If we create them as data in the
bootloader, then pass them to the kernel as data, then process them
as data, _that_ would be the correct mechanism.
--
Lee Jones
Linaro ST-Ericsson Landing Team Lead
Linaro.org ? Open source software for ARM SoCs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-21 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-20 14:33 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/8] Adding boottime support Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/8] u8500: Correct unnecessary mathematical roll-over Lee Jones
2012-11-20 18:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 10:02 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 13:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 14:54 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/8] u8500: Add utimer support Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/8] boottime: Add core boottime measurement support Lee Jones
2012-11-20 18:20 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 9:50 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 13:44 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 15:03 ` Lee Jones [this message]
2012-11-21 16:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 17:26 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 19:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-26 6:08 ` Simon Glass
2012-11-26 9:00 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-26 19:57 ` Simon Glass
2012-11-27 8:55 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-27 13:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-27 14:28 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/8] boottime: Apply some key boottime tags into common code Lee Jones
2012-11-20 18:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 9:36 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 13:40 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 15:07 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/8] arm: Add boottime support for the ARM architecture Lee Jones
2012-11-20 15:11 ` Otavio Salvador
2012-11-20 15:52 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-20 18:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 9:17 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 9:30 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 10:13 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 13:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 14:39 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 16:05 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 17:48 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-21 19:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-22 10:14 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-22 13:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-22 16:08 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-22 17:40 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-23 10:08 ` Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/8] arm: Add some boottime tags into prime booting locations Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 7/8] href: Enable boottime functionality Lee Jones
2012-11-20 14:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 8/8] snowball: " Lee Jones
2012-11-20 18:08 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/8] Adding boottime support Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-21 10:03 ` Lee Jones
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