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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/57] RFC: Move arch-specific global data into its own structure
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:17:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121204191735.02BC9201071@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ3QMB+0vcamWAkxF1vvBwzgijAXpDUtBbb7YegEz0pssw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Simon,

In message <CAPnjgZ3QMB+0vcamWAkxF1vvBwzgijAXpDUtBbb7YegEz0pssw@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
> 
> The discussion at the time was here:
> 
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/146798/
> 
> My previous effort to create a generic board init basically fell over
> on this point. Do you agree with the analysis and proposal on that
> thread?

Mostly; but some questions have never been really answered, for
example the effect on the memory footprint (i.e. code size).

> > General comments / questions:
> >
> > - We always attempted to keep global data as small as possible.  What
> >   happens here appears to be a move in a totally wrong direction.
> >   Instead of simplyfiyng it (and moving stuff out of global data), we
> >   add more and more complexity to it.  That's wrong.  We should not
> >   do that.
> 
> It creates a new generic global data which is very simple. For many
> archs this is empty or very short so they will be happy.
> 
> The global data is no larger in this series, nor is it any smaller.

See Graemes other comment...

> I hope that my moving arch-specific things into their own file it will
> help people to simplify things, but if it doesn't then at least it
> doesn't pollute everything else.
> 
> I think the complexity you refer to is the introduction of an
> architecture-specific structure within global data, where all the
> arch-specific stuff lives.
> 
> This is the solution arrived at on that thread. If this doesn't suit,
> please can you suggest an alternative.

I already did above, and basicly this is what Graeme asks for, too:
instead of adding stuff to GD, we should reduce it to the really
needed bare minimum.  I'm not sure hoch much architecture specific
data would survive such a cleanup.

> > - The change makes the code less readable.  Reading "gd->arch."
> >   instead of plain "gd->" is no improvements, but rather vice versa.
> >   If we really go this way, this should be improved.
> 
> Yes it would be nice. Are you suggesting some sort of macro, or something else?

I don;t like the additional level of nesting, nomatter if I have to
write it outt or if it's hidden in some macro (actually I fear tyhe
macro version would be even worse to understand).

> > - What exactly is the impact of this code changes on the memory
> >   footprint?
> 
> We are just moving structure members around a bit, not actually
> changing the function of the code. The series is basically a nop from
> that point of view.

You add a level of indirecting to the code.  I doubt that goues
without code to load some registers (which in turn will add other code
to push and pop needed registers to/from the stack).

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-04 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-16 21:19 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/57] RFC: Move arch-specific global data into its own structure Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 01/57] Add architecture-specific global data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 02/57] at91: Move at91 global data into arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 03/57] arm: Move timer_rate_hz " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 04/57] arm: Move tbu to arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 05/57] arm: Move tbl " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 06/57] arm: Move lastinc " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 07/57] arm: Move timer_reset_value " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 08/57] ixp: Move timestamp " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 22:22   ` Marek Vasut
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 09/57] nds32: Drop tlb_addr from global data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 10/57] arm: Move tlb_addr to arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/57] x86: Move gdt_addr, new_gd_addr " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 12/57] x86: Remove reset_status, relocoff from global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 13/57] x86: Move new_gd_addr to arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-18  1:07   ` Graeme Russ
2012-12-14  6:34     ` Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 14/57] ppc: Move brg_clk " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 15/57] ppc: Remove extra pci_clk fields from global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 16/57] ppc: Move clock fields to arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 17/57] ppc: Move mpc83xx " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 18/57] ppc: Move lbc_clk and cpu " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 19/57] ppc: m68k: Move i2c1_clk, i2c2_clk " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 20/57] ppc: Move CONFIG_QE " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 21/57] ppc: Move used_laws " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 22/57] ppc: Move used_tlb_cams " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 23/57] ppc: Move mpc5xxx clocks " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 24/57] ppc: Move mpc512x " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 25/57] ppc: Move mpc8220 " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 26/57] ppc: Move reset_status " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 27/57] ppc: Move arbiter fields " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 28/57] ppc: Move dp_alloc_base, dp_alloc_top " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 29/57] arm: Move uart_clk " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 30/57] ppc: Move mirror_hack " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 31/57] ppc: Remove console_addr from global data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 32/57] ppc: Move fpga_state to arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 33/57] ppc: Move wdt_last " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 34/57] ppc: Move kbd_status " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 35/57] ppc: arm: Move sdhc_clk into arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 36/57] sparc: Drop kbd_status and reset_status from global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 37/57] m68k: Move CONFIG_EXTRA_CLOCK to arch_global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 38/57] mips: Move per_clk and dev_clk " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 39/57] avr32: Move stack_end " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 40/57] avr32: Move cpu_hz " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 41/57] sandbox: Move ram_buf " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 42/57] Add generic global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 43/57] Only use fb_base if we have a display Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 44/57] arm: Use generic global_data Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 45/57] avr32: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 46/57] blackfin: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 47/57] m68k: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 48/57] microblaze: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 49/57] mips: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 50/57] nds32: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 51/57] nios2: " Simon Glass
2012-11-20  4:01   ` Thomas Chou
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 52/57] openrisc: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 53/57] powerpc: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 54/57] sandbox: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 55/57] sh: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 56/57] sparc: " Simon Glass
2012-11-16 21:20 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 57/57] x86: " Simon Glass
2012-11-20  7:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/57] RFC: Move arch-specific global data into its own structure Wolfgang Denk
2012-11-20 14:06   ` Simon Glass
2012-11-28 23:57     ` Simon Glass
2012-12-03 14:54     ` Tom Rini
2012-12-03 22:02       ` Graeme Russ
2012-12-03 22:19         ` Simon Glass
2012-12-03 23:39           ` Tom Rini
2012-12-03 23:45             ` Graeme Russ
2012-12-04 19:27               ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-12-05  0:02                 ` Simon Glass
2012-12-04 19:25           ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-12-05  1:14             ` Graeme Russ
2012-12-06  0:33               ` Simon Glass
2012-12-04 19:05         ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-12-04 19:20       ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-12-04 19:17     ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]

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