From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:39:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130322203941.8C5642014CE@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514C6AB0.7090808@ti.com>
Dear Tom,
In message <514C6AB0.7090808@ti.com> you wrote:
> >
> > I also wonder about this. To me it appears much easier to use a
> > IH_TYPE_STANDALONE image, which 1) provides the needed size
> > information and 2) can be used with bootm, so the required
> > additional steps (flush caches, release CPU) can be handled in
> > bootm subcommands.
>
> But that then circles us back to Scott's other point of "go" is broken
> then and it is the recommended way to start standalone applications.
I'm not sosure about this It once was, yes, when IH_TYPE_STANDALONE
did not exist yet. Later this changed.
Of course "go" has it's right to exist. For example, I use it
regularly when I want to crash a system by jumping to a non-existent
or unaligned address ;-)
But today, "bootm" for a IH_TYPE_STANDALONE image ppears to be a
better way to start a standalone app.
> Now, if we want to change things and say that no, you can't just run
> totally raw binaries reliably with "go" but instead need to throw some
> form of header on top of them, how portable, really, is mkimage?
I think it would be wrong here tobe so absolute - this or that, and
nothing inbetween. The thing is, for well over a decase "go" has been
working fine, and problems like this here hever never been much of an
issue. And being able just to jump anywhere _is_ a necessary
function, IMO.
How portable is mkimage? Well, pretty much, it seems - probably more
than your options are to build a bare metal standalone image to run on
the target hardware. Why exactly are you asking this?
> We've just made that a required part of the work-flow for anyone doing
> development that's not producing ELF or something else already
> boot*'able. That might be a rather large pool I suspect.
How many of the total number of U-Boot users are actively using
standalone apps?
And how many of these are actually experiencing the problems we're
discussing here?
I'd be willing to bet a few beer that it's only a _tiny_ fraction.
Of course we should provide working solutions for each and every use
case, but here I fear we're designing for a lot of overkill.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-19 20:29 [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command York Sun
2013-03-19 22:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-19 22:07 ` York Sun
2013-03-19 23:32 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 13:59 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 14:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:43 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 17:38 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 18:16 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:15 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 19:36 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:59 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 21:31 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 5:42 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 5:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 12:29 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-21 13:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 18:22 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 19:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 20:34 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-22 6:30 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 12:17 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 14:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-22 14:29 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 15:57 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 16:48 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-22 17:19 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 20:39 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2013-03-20 22:11 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 22:35 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 23:33 ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-20 23:48 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 0:27 ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-21 0:31 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 5:02 ` Sricharan R
2013-03-21 18:51 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 17:58 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-21 18:07 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 19:21 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 19:40 ` York Sun
2013-03-20 14:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:44 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 14:02 ` Jim Chargin
2013-04-18 17:09 ` Scott Wood
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