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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 1/2] NET: Add net_busy_flag if CONFIG_USB_KEYBOARD is defined
@ 2013-07-19  9:36 Jim Lin
  2013-07-19  9:36 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance Jim Lin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jim Lin @ 2013-07-19  9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

This flag is to have console aware that NET transfer is running or not.

Signed-off-by: Jim Lin <jilin@nvidia.com>
---
Changes in v2:
 1. Change configuration name from CONFIG_CTRLC_POLL_MS to CONFIG_CTRLC_POLL_S.
 2. New code will be executed only when CONFIG_CTRLC_POLL_S is defined in
    configuration header file.
 3. Add description in README.console.
Changes in v3:
 1. Move changes to common/usb_kbd.c and doc/README.usb
 2. Rename config setting to CONFIG_USBKB_TESTC_PERIOD.
 3. Remove slow response on USB-keyboard input when TFTP boot is not running.
Changes in v4:
 1. Remove changes in doc/README.usb, common/usb_kbd.c and
    CONFIG_USBKB_TESTC_PERIOD 
 2. Modify net/net.c
Changes in v5:
 1. Change variable name to ctrlc_t_start.
 2. Use two calls of get_timer(0) to get time gap.
Changes in v6:
 1. In common/usb_kbd.c, check net_busy_flag to determine whether we poll
    USB keyboard status.
 2. In include/usb.h, add external variable declaration net_busy_flag
Changes in v7:
 1. Add CONFIG_USB_KEYBOARD

 net/net.c |   12 ++++++++++++
 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/net/net.c b/net/net.c
index df94789..38f7bf7 100644
--- a/net/net.c
+++ b/net/net.c
@@ -206,6 +206,9 @@ uchar *NetTxPacket;
 static int net_check_prereq(enum proto_t protocol);
 
 static int NetTryCount;
+#ifdef CONFIG_USB_KEYBOARD
+int net_busy_flag;
+#endif
 
 /**********************************************************************/
 
@@ -341,6 +344,9 @@ int NetLoop(enum proto_t protocol)
 		eth_init_state_only(bd);
 
 restart:
+#ifdef CONFIG_USB_KEYBOARD
+	net_busy_flag = 0;
+#endif
 	net_set_state(NETLOOP_CONTINUE);
 
 	/*
@@ -453,6 +459,9 @@ restart:
 		status_led_set(STATUS_LED_RED, STATUS_LED_ON);
 #endif /* CONFIG_SYS_FAULT_ECHO_LINK_DOWN, ... */
 #endif /* CONFIG_MII, ... */
+#ifdef CONFIG_USB_KEYBOARD
+	net_busy_flag = 1;
+#endif
 
 	/*
 	 *	Main packet reception loop.  Loop receiving packets until
@@ -558,6 +567,9 @@ restart:
 	}
 
 done:
+#ifdef CONFIG_USB_KEYBOARD
+	net_busy_flag = 0;
+#endif
 #ifdef CONFIG_CMD_TFTPPUT
 	/* Clear out the handlers */
 	net_set_udp_handler(NULL);
-- 
1.7.7

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-19  9:36 [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 1/2] NET: Add net_busy_flag if CONFIG_USB_KEYBOARD is defined Jim Lin
@ 2013-07-19  9:36 ` Jim Lin
  2013-07-19 11:17   ` Wolfgang Denk
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jim Lin @ 2013-07-19  9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
stdin has usbkbd added.
This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every second
when NET transfer is running.

Signed-off-by: Jim Lin <jilin@nvidia.com>
---
Changes in v2:
 1. Change configuration name from CONFIG_CTRLC_POLL_MS to CONFIG_CTRLC_POLL_S.
 2. New code will be executed only when CONFIG_CTRLC_POLL_S is defined in
    configuration header file.
 3. Add description in README.console.
Changes in v3:
 1. Move changes to common/usb_kbd.c and doc/README.usb
 2. Rename config setting to CONFIG_USBKB_TESTC_PERIOD.
 3. Remove slow response on USB-keyboard input when TFTP boot is not running.
Changes in v4:
 1. Remove changes in doc/README.usb, common/usb_kbd.c and
    CONFIG_USBKB_TESTC_PERIOD 
 2. Modify net/net.c
Changes in v5:
 1. Change variable name to ctrlc_t_start.
 2. Use two calls of get_timer(0) to get time gap.
Changes in v6:
 1. In common/usb_kbd.c, check net_busy_flag to determine whether we poll
    USB keyboard status.
 2. In include/usb.h, add external variable declaration net_busy_flag
Changes in v7:
 1. In common/usb_kbd.c and include/usb.h, add #ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET.
 2. In common/usb_kbd.c, modify code to get correct time gap.

 common/usb_kbd.c |   14 ++++++++++++++
 include/usb.h    |    4 +++-
 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/common/usb_kbd.c b/common/usb_kbd.c
index 3174b5e..05e0c7e 100644
--- a/common/usb_kbd.c
+++ b/common/usb_kbd.c
@@ -120,6 +120,10 @@ struct usb_kbd_pdata {
 
 	uint8_t		flags;
 };
+#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
+/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
+static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
+#endif
 
 /* Generic keyboard event polling. */
 void usb_kbd_generic_poll(void)
@@ -366,6 +370,16 @@ static int usb_kbd_testc(void)
 	struct usb_device *usb_kbd_dev;
 	struct usb_kbd_pdata *data;
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
+	/*
+	 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
+	 * then we check key pressed every second to improve
+	 * TFTP booting performance.
+	 */
+	if (net_busy_flag && (get_timer(kbd_testc_tms) < CONFIG_SYS_HZ))
+		return 0;
+	kbd_testc_tms = get_timer(0);
+#endif
 	dev = stdio_get_by_name(DEVNAME);
 	usb_kbd_dev = (struct usb_device *)dev->priv;
 	data = usb_kbd_dev->privptr;
diff --git a/include/usb.h b/include/usb.h
index d7b082d..e1901d1 100644
--- a/include/usb.h
+++ b/include/usb.h
@@ -206,7 +206,9 @@ int usb_host_eth_scan(int mode);
 
 int drv_usb_kbd_init(void);
 int usb_kbd_deregister(void);
-
+#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
+extern int net_busy_flag;
+#endif
 #endif
 /* routines */
 int usb_init(void); /* initialize the USB Controller */
-- 
1.7.7

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-19  9:36 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance Jim Lin
@ 2013-07-19 11:17   ` Wolfgang Denk
  2013-07-19 12:06     ` Jim Lin
  2013-07-31  9:48     ` Jim Lin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2013-07-19 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Dear Jim Lin,

In message <1374226576-13401-2-git-send-email-jilin@nvidia.com> you wrote:
> TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
> stdin has usbkbd added.
> This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every second
> when NET transfer is running.
...
> +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> +/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
> +static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
> +#endif
>  
>  /* Generic keyboard event polling. */
>  void usb_kbd_generic_poll(void)
> @@ -366,6 +370,16 @@ static int usb_kbd_testc(void)
>  	struct usb_device *usb_kbd_dev;
>  	struct usb_kbd_pdata *data;
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> +	/*
> +	 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
> +	 * then we check key pressed every second to improve
> +	 * TFTP booting performance.
> +	 */
> +	if (net_busy_flag && (get_timer(kbd_testc_tms) < CONFIG_SYS_HZ))
> +		return 0;
> +	kbd_testc_tms = get_timer(0);
> +#endif

You did not comment on my remark about  kbd_testc_tms  being used
basically with a random start value for each invocation of a network
command.  The "every second" above is wrong.  The actual interval may
be much shorter (even nearly zero, at least once), or longer.


BTW: Please fix the list of mail addresses you're sending to, and
remove non-existing ones.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-19 11:17   ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2013-07-19 12:06     ` Jim Lin
  2013-07-19 13:53       ` Marek Vasut
  2013-07-31  9:48     ` Jim Lin
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jim Lin @ 2013-07-19 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 19:17 +0800, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Jim Lin,
> 
> In message <1374226576-13401-2-git-send-email-jilin@nvidia.com> you wrote:
> > TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
> > stdin has usbkbd added.
> > This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every second
> > when NET transfer is running.
> ...
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > +/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
> > +static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
> > +#endif
> >  
> >  /* Generic keyboard event polling. */
> >  void usb_kbd_generic_poll(void)
> > @@ -366,6 +370,16 @@ static int usb_kbd_testc(void)
> >  	struct usb_device *usb_kbd_dev;
> >  	struct usb_kbd_pdata *data;
> >  
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
> > +	 * then we check key pressed every second to improve
> > +	 * TFTP booting performance.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (net_busy_flag && (get_timer(kbd_testc_tms) < CONFIG_SYS_HZ))
> > +		return 0;
> > +	kbd_testc_tms = get_timer(0);
> > +#endif
> 
> You did not comment on my remark about  kbd_testc_tms  being used
> basically with a random start value for each invocation of a network
> command.  The "every second" above is wrong.  The actual interval may
> be much shorter (even nearly zero, at least once), or longer.
Okay, I will check again.




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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-19 12:06     ` Jim Lin
@ 2013-07-19 13:53       ` Marek Vasut
  2013-07-31 10:21         ` Jim Lin
  2013-07-31 10:30         ` Jim Lin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2013-07-19 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Dear Jim Lin,

> On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 19:17 +0800, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > Dear Jim Lin,
> > 
> > In message <1374226576-13401-2-git-send-email-jilin@nvidia.com> you wrote:
> > > TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
> > > stdin has usbkbd added.
> > > This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every second
> > > when NET transfer is running.
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > > +/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
> > > +static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
> > > +#endif
> > > 
> > >  /* Generic keyboard event polling. */
> > >  void usb_kbd_generic_poll(void)
> > > 
> > > @@ -366,6 +370,16 @@ static int usb_kbd_testc(void)
> > > 
> > >  	struct usb_device *usb_kbd_dev;
> > >  	struct usb_kbd_pdata *data;
> > > 
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
> > > +	 * then we check key pressed every second to improve
> > > +	 * TFTP booting performance.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (net_busy_flag && (get_timer(kbd_testc_tms) < CONFIG_SYS_HZ))
> > > +		return 0;
> > > +	kbd_testc_tms = get_timer(0);
> > > +#endif
> > 
> > You did not comment on my remark about  kbd_testc_tms  being used
> > basically with a random start value for each invocation of a network
> > command.  The "every second" above is wrong.  The actual interval may
> > be much shorter (even nearly zero, at least once), or longer.
> 
> Okay, I will check again.
> 
I'll wait for v3. In the meantime, I homestly dont like having such hacks on 
both sides, but I dont think much can be done about it. Maybe use __maybe_unused 
for the net_busy_flag to drop the ifdef ?

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-19 11:17   ` Wolfgang Denk
  2013-07-19 12:06     ` Jim Lin
@ 2013-07-31  9:48     ` Jim Lin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jim Lin @ 2013-07-31  9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 19:17 +0800, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Jim Lin,
> 
> In message <1374226576-13401-2-git-send-email-jilin@nvidia.com> you wrote:
> > TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
> > stdin has usbkbd added.
> > This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every second
> > when NET transfer is running.
> ...
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > +/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
> > +static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
> > +#endif
> >  
> >  /* Generic keyboard event polling. */
> >  void usb_kbd_generic_poll(void)
> > @@ -366,6 +370,16 @@ static int usb_kbd_testc(void)
> >  	struct usb_device *usb_kbd_dev;
> >  	struct usb_kbd_pdata *data;
> >  
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
> > +	 * then we check key pressed every second to improve
> > +	 * TFTP booting performance.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (net_busy_flag && (get_timer(kbd_testc_tms) < CONFIG_SYS_HZ))
> > +		return 0;
> > +	kbd_testc_tms = get_timer(0);
> > +#endif
> 
> You did not comment on my remark about  kbd_testc_tms  being used
> basically with a random start value for each invocation of a network
> command.  The "every second" above is wrong.  The actual interval may
> be much shorter (even nearly zero, at least once), or longer.
I will change the comment as the following.
/*
 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
 * then we check key pressed every second (first check
 * may be less than 1 second)
 * to improve TFTP booting performance.
 */

The behavior you mentioned is not that critical.

--nvpublic

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-19 13:53       ` Marek Vasut
@ 2013-07-31 10:21         ` Jim Lin
  2013-07-31 10:36           ` Marek Vasut
  2013-07-31 10:30         ` Jim Lin
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jim Lin @ 2013-07-31 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 21:53 +0800, Marek Vasut wrote:
> Dear Jim Lin,
> 
> > On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 19:17 +0800, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > > Dear Jim Lin,
> > > 
> > > In message <1374226576-13401-2-git-send-email-jilin@nvidia.com> you wrote:
> > > > TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
> > > > stdin has usbkbd added.
> > > > This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every second
> > > > when NET transfer is running.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > > > +/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
> > > > +static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
> > > > +#endif
> > > > 
> > > >  /* Generic keyboard event polling. */
> > > >  void usb_kbd_generic_poll(void)
> > > > 
> > > > @@ -366,6 +370,16 @@ static int usb_kbd_testc(void)
> > > > 
> > > >  	struct usb_device *usb_kbd_dev;
> > > >  	struct usb_kbd_pdata *data;
> > > > 
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
> > > > +	 * then we check key pressed every second to improve
> > > > +	 * TFTP booting performance.
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	if (net_busy_flag && (get_timer(kbd_testc_tms) < CONFIG_SYS_HZ))
> > > > +		return 0;
> > > > +	kbd_testc_tms = get_timer(0);
> > > > +#endif
> > > 
> > > You did not comment on my remark about  kbd_testc_tms  being used
> > > basically with a random start value for each invocation of a network
> > > command.  The "every second" above is wrong.  The actual interval may
> > > be much shorter (even nearly zero, at least once), or longer.
> > 
> > Okay, I will check again.
> > 
> I'll wait for v3. In the meantime, I homestly dont like having such hacks on 
> both sides, but I dont think much can be done about it. Maybe use __maybe_unused 
> for the net_busy_flag to drop the ifdef ?
I don't quite understand what you wanted me to do.
Could you give me an example? What to add and what to remove.
Thanks.

--nvpublic

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-19 13:53       ` Marek Vasut
  2013-07-31 10:21         ` Jim Lin
@ 2013-07-31 10:30         ` Jim Lin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jim Lin @ 2013-07-31 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 21:53 +0800, Marek Vasut wrote:
> Dear Jim Lin,
> 
> > On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 19:17 +0800, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > > Dear Jim Lin,
> > > 
> > > In message <1374226576-13401-2-git-send-email-jilin@nvidia.com> you wrote:
> > > > TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
> > > > stdin has usbkbd added.
> > > > This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every second
> > > > when NET transfer is running.
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > > > +/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
> > > > +static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
> > > > +#endif
> > > > 
> > > >  /* Generic keyboard event polling. */
> > > >  void usb_kbd_generic_poll(void)
> > > > 
> > > > @@ -366,6 +370,16 @@ static int usb_kbd_testc(void)
> > > > 
> > > >  	struct usb_device *usb_kbd_dev;
> > > >  	struct usb_kbd_pdata *data;
> > > > 
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * If net_busy_flag is 1, NET transfer is running,
> > > > +	 * then we check key pressed every second to improve
> > > > +	 * TFTP booting performance.
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	if (net_busy_flag && (get_timer(kbd_testc_tms) < CONFIG_SYS_HZ))
> > > > +		return 0;
> > > > +	kbd_testc_tms = get_timer(0);
> > > > +#endif
> > > 
> > > You did not comment on my remark about  kbd_testc_tms  being used
> > > basically with a random start value for each invocation of a network
> > > command.  The "every second" above is wrong.  The actual interval may
> > > be much shorter (even nearly zero, at least once), or longer.
> > 
> > Okay, I will check again.
> > 
> I'll wait for v3. In the meantime, I homestly dont like having such hacks on 
> both sides, but I dont think much can be done about it. Maybe use __maybe_unused 
> for the net_busy_flag to drop the ifdef ?
I don't quite understand what you wanted me to do.
Could you give me an example? What to add and what to remove.
Thanks.

--nvpublic

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* [U-Boot] [PATCH v7 2/2] console: usb: kbd: To improve TFTP booting performance
  2013-07-31 10:21         ` Jim Lin
@ 2013-07-31 10:36           ` Marek Vasut
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2013-07-31 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Dear Jim Lin,

> On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 21:53 +0800, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > Dear Jim Lin,
> > 
> > > On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 19:17 +0800, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > > > Dear Jim Lin,
> > > > 
> > > > In message <1374226576-13401-2-git-send-email-jilin@nvidia.com> you 
wrote:
> > > > > TFTP booting is slow when a USB keyboard is installed and
> > > > > stdin has usbkbd added.
> > > > > This fix is to change Ctrl-C polling for USB keyboard to every
> > > > > second when NET transfer is running.
> > > > 
> > > > ...
> > > > 
> > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_CMD_NET
> > > > > +/* The period of time between two calls of usb_kbd_testc(). */
> > > > > +static unsigned long kbd_testc_tms;
> > > > > +#endif

Just use __maybe_unused here to squash the ifdef ;-)

[...]

> > I'll wait for v3. In the meantime, I homestly dont like having such hacks
> > on both sides, but I dont think much can be done about it. Maybe use
> > __maybe_unused for the net_busy_flag to drop the ifdef ?
> 
> I don't quite understand what you wanted me to do.
> Could you give me an example? What to add and what to remove.
> Thanks.
> 
> --nvpublic

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

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