From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.u.boot@aribaud.net>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:06:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130731090644.2b4ce215@lilith> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130731051821.DDA1C380480@gemini.denx.de>
Hi Wolfgang,
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:18:21 +0200, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
> Dear Albert ARIBAUD,
>
> In message <20130731000921.724f5c71@lilith> you wrote:
> >
> > board_init_f() is supposed to initialize just enough of the system to
> > allow relocation. Is initializing i2c necessary in this context?
>
> On some boards, yes. For example, if they store the environment in an
> I2C attached EEPROM. Then you need I2C support early, before console,
> to read for example the baudrate setting.
Thanks, so some I2C reads are needed. Next question: on these boards,
do these I2C reads require DT reads? Maybe a few hard-coded low level
I2C reads are enough. I guess DT writes are completely unneeded at
that point. Also, why exactly do I2C and, as the case may be, DT, need
to write to .data?
More generally, while I think the board_init_f() part of U-Boot should
be as short and compact as possible, I understand and admit that it
might have to read from just about any (local) storage resource, be it
environment or DT or any stored information it needs.
On the other hand, it may be hard to immediately know what functions
throughout U-boot are safe to call from within board_init_f(); maybe we
should start thinking about checking and marking these, the simplest
way being to suffix them with "_f" once we have made sure they are safe
to call from within board_init_f().
But we should strictly limit the scope of board_init_f() or we'll find
the board_init_f()/board_init_r() pair following a patch similar to the
SPL/U-Boot pair, where SPL started out as a tiny helper piece of code
and ending up a resizeable (and, I dare to say, sizeable as well) kind
of U-boot. If we let too many features slip in board_init_f(), it'll
blur into a board_init_r() like and before we know it, it'll *require*
DDR, and write access to it too...
So, board_init_() should *strictly* be limited to setting up a console
(for information purposes) and giving access to DDR while in the same
time never writing to it itself. Bonus points if it can limit itself to
*enabling* and postpone any *optimizing*(I am thinking of DDR settings
here and no, I don't have specific existing cases in mind; just sayin').
In the present instance, I'd rather we either:
- removed dependency on DT etc. by using "hard-coded" low level I2C
reads for those boards that need it (I assume that for each of these
boards the I2C slave, offset, and length to read are constant) in _f
phase, or
- parsed the _f phase looking for offending functions or calls which
write to .data or .bss and fix them, suffixing them with _f; in
essence, that amounts to starting the implementation of my suggestion
above alongside fixing the issue at hand.
The first approach is rather "let's bring the thing back up first", so
it does not have my preference, but I would understand the need to
quickly fix things.
The second approach seems to be going in the same direction as Heiko's
proposal of 07:52 +0200, which I thus second provided it is applicable
to all the boards Wolfgang had in mind.
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
Amicalement,
--
Albert.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-31 7:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-04 12:01 [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Bring in new I2C framework Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 1/9] i2c: add i2c_core and prepare for new multibus support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 2/9] i2c: common changes for multibus/multiadapter support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 16:39 ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2013-05-07 13:05 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-11 21:17 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-13 4:47 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-11 21:33 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-13 5:41 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 3/9] i2c, soft-i2c: switch to new " Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 4/9] i2c, fsl_i2c: " Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 5/9] i2c, multibus: get rid of CONFIG_I2C_MUX Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 12:23 ` Holger Brunck
2013-05-06 13:57 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 6/9] i2c, multibus, keymile: get rid of EEprom_ivm envvariable Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 12:24 ` Holger Brunck
2013-05-06 13:58 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 7/9] tegra: i2c: Add function to know about current bus Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 19:08 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-07 8:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2Cframework Marc Dietrich
2013-05-07 14:55 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-07 16:17 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-08 4:11 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-07 13:07 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework Heiko Schocher
[not found] ` <5FBF8E85CA34454794F0F7ECBA79798F37ACAFEF3F@HQMAIL04.nvidia.com>
2013-05-07 13:12 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-29 16:12 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 4:28 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-30 4:34 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 18:56 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 4:29 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-30 19:22 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 20:00 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:21 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:32 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:46 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:51 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:05 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 5:46 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:31 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 4:32 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 5:39 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 6:02 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 6:53 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-01 8:38 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 14:22 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-01 15:06 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 20:16 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-02 19:32 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-01 20:14 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-01 20:34 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 20:32 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-02 4:40 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-02 19:35 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-02 21:43 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-03 3:55 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-05 15:40 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-05 17:28 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 20:12 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-05 20:15 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 17:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:09 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-30 22:11 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 5:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-07-31 5:55 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 7:06 ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2013-07-31 7:36 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 8:16 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-31 8:31 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 9:38 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-31 12:30 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 13:03 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:41 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 4:32 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-07-31 5:52 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 5:03 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-05 19:21 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 20:08 ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05 21:06 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 23:18 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:19 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:21 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:45 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 5:01 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 9/9] i2c, ppc4xx_i2c: switch to new multibus/multiadapter support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 6:52 ` Stefan Roese
2013-05-06 8:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Bring in new I2C framework Dirk Eibach
2013-05-06 14:11 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-17 13:17 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-05-18 17:41 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-20 6:13 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-19 22:07 ` Simon Glass
2013-06-20 3:38 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 5:50 ` Minkyu Kang
2013-06-20 6:41 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20 7:14 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 8:34 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20 9:19 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 5:52 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20 6:52 ` Dirk Eibach
2013-06-20 7:59 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 8:20 ` Dirk Eibach
2013-06-20 9:11 ` Heiko Schocher
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