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From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.u.boot@aribaud.net>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:16:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130731101636.059ad6de@lilith> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F8BE73.2010101@denx.de>

Hi Heiko,

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:36:19 +0200, Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de> wrote:

> > On the other hand, it may be hard to immediately know what functions
> > throughout U-boot are safe to call from within board_init_f(); maybe we
> > should start thinking about checking and marking these, the simplest
> > way being to suffix them with "_f" once we have made sure they are safe
> > to call from within board_init_f().
> 
> Hmmm... Maybe instead we should think (also in thinking common bring
> up for all boards) about:
> 
> getting rid of board_init_f in u-boot code, instead use for all
> boards spl code to init needed things and copy and relocate u-boot
> to ram in spl code ... so we have in u-boot no longer such
> restictions ... but thats just an idea which whirs in my head ...
> without thinking to deep in it.
> 
> But this approach would have some advantages ...

Well, the original SPL was basically board_init_f() plus some code to
copy U-Boot from wherever it was to DDR, so it was tightly linked to
board_init_f(). But... first, SPL has evolved into a "U-Boot lite"
where much can happen beyond board_init_f() -- think Falcon mode, for
instance -- and second, there are boards which do not have SPL at all,
and their board_init_f() can thus not be "moved to SPL".

So no, I don't think we can move U-Boot's design from "_f/_r" to
"SPL/U-Boot".

> > But we should strictly limit the scope of board_init_f() or we'll find
> > the board_init_f()/board_init_r() pair following a patch similar to the
> > SPL/U-Boot pair, where SPL started out as a tiny helper piece of code
> > and ending up a resizeable (and, I dare to say, sizeable as well) kind
> > of U-boot. If we let too many features slip in board_init_f(), it'll
> > blur into a board_init_r() like and before we know it, it'll *require*
> > DDR, and write access to it too...
> >
> > So, board_init_() should *strictly* be limited to setting up a console
> > (for information purposes) and giving access to DDR while in the same
> > time never writing to it itself. Bonus points if it can limit itself to
> > *enabling* and postpone any *optimizing*(I am thinking of DDR settings
> > here and no, I don't have specific existing cases in mind; just sayin').
> >
> > In the present instance, I'd rather we either:
> >
> > - removed dependency on DT etc. by using "hard-coded" low level I2C
> >    reads for those boards that need it (I assume that for each of these
> >    boards the I2C slave, offset, and length to read are constant) in _f
> >    phase, or
> 
> But DT is used for initializing the i2c driver in tegra ...

Alright, out goes this proposal. Anyway, I didn't like it best. :)

> > - parsed the _f phase looking for offending functions or calls which
> >    write to .data or .bss and fix them, suffixing them with _f; in
> >    essence, that amounts to starting the implementation of my suggestion
> >    above alongside fixing the issue at hand.
> >
> > The first approach is rather "let's bring the thing back up first", so
> > it does not have my preference, but I would understand the need to
> > quickly fix things.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > The second approach seems to be going in the same direction as Heiko's
> > proposal of 07:52 +0200, which I thus second provided it is applicable
> > to all the boards Wolfgang had in mind.
> 
> Lets do us this step as fixup ;-)

Alright too. :)

> bye,
> Heiko

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-04 12:01 [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Bring in new I2C framework Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 1/9] i2c: add i2c_core and prepare for new multibus support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 2/9] i2c: common changes for multibus/multiadapter support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 16:39   ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2013-05-07 13:05     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-11 21:17   ` Simon Glass
2013-05-13  4:47     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-11 21:33   ` Simon Glass
2013-05-13  5:41     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 3/9] i2c, soft-i2c: switch to new " Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 4/9] i2c, fsl_i2c: " Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 5/9] i2c, multibus: get rid of CONFIG_I2C_MUX Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 12:23   ` Holger Brunck
2013-05-06 13:57     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 6/9] i2c, multibus, keymile: get rid of EEprom_ivm envvariable Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 12:24   ` Holger Brunck
2013-05-06 13:58     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 7/9] tegra: i2c: Add function to know about current bus Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 19:08   ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-07  8:01     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2Cframework Marc Dietrich
2013-05-07 14:55       ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-07 16:17         ` Simon Glass
2013-05-08  4:11         ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-07 13:07     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework Heiko Schocher
     [not found]     ` <5FBF8E85CA34454794F0F7ECBA79798F37ACAFEF3F@HQMAIL04.nvidia.com>
2013-05-07 13:12       ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-29 16:12   ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30  4:28     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-30  4:34       ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 18:56       ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31  4:29         ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-30 19:22       ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 20:00         ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:21           ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:32             ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:46               ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:51                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:05                   ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31  5:46                     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:31                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01  4:32                         ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01  5:39                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01  6:02                             ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01  6:53                               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-01  8:38                                 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 14:22                                   ` Simon Glass
2013-08-01 15:06                                     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 20:16                                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-02 19:32                                       ` Simon Glass
2013-08-01 20:14                                   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-01 20:34                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 20:32                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-02  4:40                                 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-02 19:35                                   ` Simon Glass
2013-08-02 21:43                                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-03  3:55                                     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-05 15:40                                       ` Simon Glass
2013-08-05 17:28                                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 20:12                                           ` Simon Glass
2013-08-05 20:15                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 17:59                                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:09                   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-30 22:11                     ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31  5:18                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-07-31  5:55                       ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31  7:06                       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-31  7:36                         ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31  8:16                           ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2013-07-31  8:31                             ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31  9:38                               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-31 12:30                                 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 13:03                                   ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:41                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01  4:32                                 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:39                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-07-31  5:52                     ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31  5:03           ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-05 19:21           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 20:08             ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05 21:06               ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 23:18               ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:19         ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:21           ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:45             ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31  5:01         ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 9/9] i2c, ppc4xx_i2c: switch to new multibus/multiadapter support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06  6:52   ` Stefan Roese
2013-05-06  8:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Bring in new I2C framework Dirk Eibach
2013-05-06 14:11   ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-17 13:17 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-05-18 17:41   ` Simon Glass
2013-05-20  6:13     ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-19 22:07       ` Simon Glass
2013-06-20  3:38         ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20  5:50           ` Minkyu Kang
2013-06-20  6:41             ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20  7:14               ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20  8:34                 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20  9:19                   ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20  5:52           ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20  6:52           ` Dirk Eibach
2013-06-20  7:59             ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20  8:20               ` Dirk Eibach
2013-06-20  9:11                 ` Heiko Schocher

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