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From: Dennis Gilmore <dennis@ausil.us>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] wandboard: add pxe support, set default boot command like highbank
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 18:06:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130804180633.2b63b93f@adria.ausil.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130804200004.78552380480@gemini.denx.de>

Resending unsigned

Hi Wolfgang,

On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 22:00:04 +0200
Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:

> Dear Dennis,
> 
> In message <20130801120603.1683f7a6@adria.ausil.us> you wrote:
> >
> > ultimately I want to have a standard way to boot any system that
> > just works and does not need the installer to know or care what the
> > target system is. using boot.scr and uEnv.txt does not work for my
> > goals.
> 
> But your requirement is just one out of a number of such requirements,
> and I see no indication that an "one size fits all" approach would be
> possible.
It should be possible for those systems that want a generic linux
distro to run on them. AFAIK the wandboard systems are one of those
that do. It's also a system that doesn't ship with any onboard storage
so distros are forced to build u-boot for it.

> > ultimately for Fedora we do not want to use uEnv.txt or boot.scr at
> > all we want to use a extlinux.conf file and sysboot provided by
> > cmd_pxe the rest is to provide flexibility and options to users to
> > choose different ways to boot. the above is not at all suitable. 
> 
> Just stating what you don't want, and what you want, is not exactly a
> constructive process.  It's like saying: "I'm right, you all are
> wrong."
its not at all, if there is some way to achieve much the same thing
using some other method please let me know. I don't want to force some
solution everywhere. but i want the same solution to be in place for
boards that want to have a generic linux distro be supported on it.

I didn't take out the features we do not want because I understand that
not everyone wants things to be the same, that other ways to do things
is perfectly valid.

> The thing is, that the overwhelming majority of systems are not
> running a standard distro like Fedora, and don't have any such
> features as boot extlinux.conf files or sysboot or whatever -they
> don;t have it, and they cannot afford it because they have totally
> different requirements to meet.  Please try and keep this in mind.
> Yourrequiremetns are but a special case here - one which we will try
> to support in the best possible way, of course, but it's just one out
> of many.

and those systems are free to continue as they do today. they are
likely systems where a generic linux distro just wont run even if you
really try.

Dennis

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-04 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-25 21:13 [U-Boot] [PATCH] wandboard: add pxe support, set default boot command like highbank dgilmore at fedoraproject.org
2013-07-26 13:52 ` Otavio Salvador
     [not found]   ` <20130726192012.1634241e@adria.ausil.us>
2013-07-29 18:47     ` Otavio Salvador
2013-07-31 23:01 ` Rob Herring
2013-07-31 23:27   ` Robert Nelson
2013-08-01  8:53     ` Stefano Babic
2013-08-01 17:06       ` Dennis Gilmore
2013-08-02  9:25         ` Stefano Babic
2013-08-04 20:00         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-04 20:27           ` Tom Rini
2013-08-04 21:03             ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-04 21:47               ` Tom Rini
2013-08-04 22:11                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-05 15:33                   ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05 16:29                     ` Otavio Salvador
2013-08-05 19:09                       ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05 20:36                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-05 20:44                           ` Tom Rini
     [not found]           ` <20130804163442.31dca315@adria.ausil.us>
2013-08-04 22:26             ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-04 23:06           ` Dennis Gilmore [this message]
2013-08-01 17:19       ` Rob Herring
2013-08-02  9:14         ` Stefano Babic
2013-08-04 19:53           ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-04 20:14           ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05  2:21           ` Rob Herring
2013-08-05  5:29             ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-05 16:07               ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05 20:28                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-05 20:42                   ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05 22:16               ` Rob Herring
2013-08-06 11:37                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-08-06 15:50                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-06 16:18                     ` Otavio Salvador
2013-08-06 16:54                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-06 16:58                         ` Otavio Salvador
2013-08-06 17:12                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-06 17:17                             ` Otavio Salvador
2013-08-06 21:37                           ` Tom Rini
2013-08-06 21:44                             ` Otavio Salvador
2013-08-06 21:45                             ` Otavio Salvador
2013-08-06 16:22                   ` Dennis Gilmore
2013-08-06 16:29                     ` Otavio Salvador
2013-08-06 20:05                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-06 21:42                     ` Tom Rini
2013-08-06 23:11                       ` Dennis Gilmore
2013-08-07 13:19                         ` Tom Rini
2013-08-07 23:04                           ` Dennis Gilmore
2013-08-08 15:26                             ` Tom Rini
2013-08-10 20:50                               ` Dennis Gilmore
2013-08-12 13:49                                 ` Tom Rini
2013-08-04 20:32         ` Tom Rini

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