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From: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] pci: mx6: Implement reset callback
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:34:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201402040034.53106.marex@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52F00209.2040201@boundarydevices.com>

On Monday, February 03, 2014 at 09:54:33 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
> Hi Marek,
> 
> On 02/03/2014 01:16 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > On Monday, February 03, 2014 at 08:57:30 PM, Eric Nelson wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> 
> I like having this bit included, but do you need to attribute copyright
> for this block?

I'd hate to tempt PCISIG with this portion actually. That's why I didn't put the 
whole quotation into the patch either.

[...]

> > We really should start waving a sign "YOU MUST CONNECT PERST IN YOUR NEW
> > DESIGN, OTHERWISE A KITTEN DIES!"
> 
> Hey, leave the kittens alone!

Are ponies ok? Friendship is magic afterall :-)

> >> We have had success in using/testing PCIe devices without either, but
> >> that doesn't mean we match the spec, and I suppose we'll have to live
> >> with the "broken design" message...
> > 
> > I know. The design without FR works most of the time, but there is one
> > particular scenario where it may fail (means it fails reliably). I will
> > assume we have just a simple RC<->EP connection with EP being i82574L
> > card (well supported and easily available intel NIC):
> > 
> > 1) Cold boot the system
> > 2) Bring up the PCIe link in U-Boot
> > 3) Use the e1000e driver for some transfer
> > 4) Boot Linux
> > 5) Bring up the PCIe link in Linux
> > 6) Use the e1000e driver for some transfer
> > 7) Reboot the system from Linux
> > 8) Bring up the PCIe link in U-Boot
> > 
> > In case you don't have means to do FR, your system will fail during 5)
> > and/or during 8) because in either case, the link and/or EP device can
> > be in undefined state from previous usage. You are therefore not able to
> > send in-band messages to the EP (to issue hot reset for example*) nor
> > restart the link, thus you're trapped.
> > 
> > * if you try to send anything over unstable PCIe link on MX6, it can
> > stall your entire system to the point where the system bus is stuck and
> > not even JTAG debugger can halt the CPU (!)
> 
> Thanks. That's a useful test scenario.

Hope it helps :) Sometimes you need to do a few cycles until the hardware hangs. 
I found this out when I was debugging another custom board here. I think we will 
have a rock-solid PCIe implementation on MX6 for 3.14 and 2014.04 ;-)

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-03 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-24 15:25 [U-Boot] [PATCH] pci: mx6: Implement reset callback Marek Vasut
2014-01-28 15:06 ` Stefano Babic
2014-01-28 19:32   ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-03 11:56     ` Stefano Babic
2014-02-03 18:17       ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-03 18:40         ` Eric Nelson
2014-02-03 19:33           ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-03 19:57             ` Eric Nelson
2014-02-03 20:16               ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-03 20:54                 ` Eric Nelson
2014-02-03 23:34                   ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2014-02-04  0:57                     ` Eric Nelson
2014-02-04 11:25                       ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-03 20:12         ` Stefano Babic
2014-01-31  5:33 ` Tim Harvey

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