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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v2] arm: Switch to -mno-unaligned-access when supported by the compiler
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:18:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140211181803.2F3ED380BED@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xfvnpaclm.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com>

Dear M?ns Rullg?rd,

In message <yw1xfvnpaclm.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> you wrote:
>
> > With application code you don't really care whether a variable is
> > read/written in one piece or broken down into several smaller
> > reads/writes - except when you notice that performance suffers.
> >
> > When accessing hardware, it often makes a fundamental difference
> > whether you access a device register with it's correct size or not.
> > Usually breaking down an access into smaller ones results in crashes
> > or incorrect data or other errors.
> 
> I'm well aware of this, but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

This is by your definition, or based on which exact rationale?

> Device registers are always aligned.  In properly written code these are
> accessed using pointers the compiler knows to be aligned and thus does
> the right thing.

Maybe the device registers you have seen so far have always been
perfectly aligned.  Lucky you.  Note that there are a number of
designs around (that I do not hesitate to call broken) which have
such properties.  And when we include external hardware into the
discussion like PCI attached devices or customer-designed FPGAs,
it becomes even more "interesting".

I think we can stop the discussion here (at least I will do that now).
I haven't seen any new arguments coming up.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-11 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-04 17:05 [U-Boot] [PATCH v2] arm: Switch to -mno-unaligned-access when supported by the compiler Tom Rini
2014-02-04 17:35 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-10  9:24 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-10 13:21   ` Tom Rini
2014-02-10 14:57     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-10 15:14       ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-10 15:40         ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-10 16:12         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-10 16:21           ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-10 16:24           ` Tom Rini
2014-02-10 17:26             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-10 18:54               ` Wolfgang Denk
2014-02-10 21:26               ` Tom Rini
2014-02-10 22:17                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2014-02-10 22:28                   ` Tom Rini
2014-02-11  8:19                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2014-02-11 12:37                       ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-11 14:43                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2014-02-11 15:33                           ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-11 16:37                             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-11 16:44                               ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-11 17:11                                 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-11 17:21                                   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-12 14:35                               ` Tom Rini
2014-02-12 16:19                                 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-17 15:45                                   ` Tom Rini
2014-02-17 15:55                                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-11 18:18                             ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2014-02-11 18:21                               ` Måns Rullgård
2014-02-11  8:44                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-02-12 14:25                       ` Tom Rini
2014-02-12 15:51                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2014-02-10 15:21       ` Tom Rini

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