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From: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 02/22] arm: socfpga: enable saveenv to mmc partition
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 14:51:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201501171451.33796.marex@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150116183511.GA8425@amd>

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 07:35:11 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > -#define CONFIG_ENV_IS_NOWHERE
> > > > 
> > > >  #define CONFIG_ENV_SIZE			4096
> > > > 
> > > > +#define CONFIG_ENV_IS_IN_MMC
> > > > +#define CONFIG_SYS_MMC_ENV_DEV		0/* device 0 */
> > > > +#define CONFIG_ENV_OFFSET		512/* just after the MBR */
> > > > +
> > > 
> > > Would it make sense to make environment bigger (64K?) at this point,
> > > and enabling the redundant environment option, so that one bad block
> > > does not bring the whole device down?
> > 
> > Do you think you'll ever have more than a 4KiB of text data in the env ?
> > I can see a reason for some 16 KiB environment, but that's the
> > 
>  > ceiling.
> 
> We have hit 4KiB size already, and I believe we are over 8KiB,
> even. wagabuibui loads a lot of small files from flash.
> 
> So if 16KiB is acceptable, lets do that.

16KiB is fine by me, though I'm not quite sure how you managed to stuff 8KiB
full of env ;-)

> > Usually, the env only has to be a few KiB and it's size has to be
> > multiple of the underlying device's erase block. But in case of SD card,
> > there are no explicit erase blocks exported to the user, all is hidden
> > by the controller in the SD card and gives an illusion of a device which
> > has 512b
> > blocks and
> 
> Allocation unit is usually 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 or 16 MiB on recent flash
> cards. It is field in uSD card structure somewhere. We could choose
> 24MiB, to have GCD, but... see:
> 
> https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/KernelArchived/Projects/FlashCardSurv
> ey

OK, this is even more precise. Thanks for the link.

> > the user doesn't care for bad block management. Since the controller in
> > the card does the bad block management and wear leveling/relocation of
> > blocks, it also means that in case the controller did fail to provide
> > the block which contains env, the whole card would already be in a very
> > bad state.
> 
> Bad block management means you don't get errors during write, but you
> can still get errors during read.

That in fact depends on the BBM implementation, but in case you get error
during read, it's usually a game over kind of situation. But I agree.

Best regards,
Marek Vasut

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-17 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-14 16:40 [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 00/22] Add SPL support for SoCFGPA dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 01/22] arm: socfpga: spl: Add main sdram code dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:34   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-16 19:04     ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-17  2:39       ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-04 13:36         ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-20 23:51     ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-01-21  8:03       ` Stefan Roese
2015-02-15 23:11   ` Pavel Machek
2015-02-15 23:25   ` Pavel Machek
2015-02-23 16:37     ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-02-23 16:39       ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-02-23 16:57         ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-23 17:00           ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-02-24 17:48             ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 02/22] arm: socfpga: enable saveenv to mmc partition dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:39   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-15 22:00   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-15 22:08     ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-16  4:50       ` Stefan Roese
2015-01-16  5:14         ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-16 18:35       ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-17 13:51         ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 03/22] arm: socfpga: Add sdram initialization code dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:41   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 04/22] arm: socfpga: spl: Add SRAM section dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:40   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-15 22:01   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 05/22] arm: socfpga: spl: put SPL in sram dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-16 19:05   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 06/22] arm: socfpga: add functions to bring sdram, timer, and uart out of reset dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:42   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-16 19:06   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 07/22] arm: socfpga: spl: enable sdram, timer and uart dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:44   ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-16 21:35   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 08/22] arm: socfpga: spl: Add call to timer_init dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:45   ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-04  3:58     ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 09/22] arm: socfpga: spl: allow bootrom to enable IOs after warm reset dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:46   ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-16 21:36   ` Pavel Machek
2015-02-17  7:09     ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 10/22] arm: socfpga: spl: add sdram init and calibration dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:47   ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-16 21:37   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 11/22] arm: socfpga: spl: printout sdram size dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:49   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 12/22] arm: socfpga: spl: Use common lowlevel_init dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:51   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 13/22] arm: socfpga: spl: Add s_init dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:54   ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-05 21:16     ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-02-07 13:34       ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-09 16:50         ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-02-09 17:05           ` Marek Vasut
2015-02-07 17:07       ` Simon Glass
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 14/22] arm: socfpga: spl: update lowlevel_init dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:56   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 15/22] arm: socfpga: spl: add relocate_stack_to_sdram to lowlevel_init.S dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:58   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-15 19:19     ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-01-15 22:00       ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-16  0:07         ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-01-16  0:48           ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 16/22] arm: socfpga: spl: add the stack in OCRAM dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 23:59   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 17/22] arm: socfpga: spl: add CONFIG_SPL_STACK to socfpga_common.h dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-15  0:00   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-16 21:56   ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 18/22] arm: socfpga: add sdram stack to SPL dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-14 16:40 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 19/22] arm: socfpga: spl: set SPL_MALLOC_SIZE dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-15  0:01   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 20/22] arm: socfpga: spl: add a malloc section in sram dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-15  0:03   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 21/22] arm: socfpga: spl: Add SDRAM check dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-15  0:04   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-16 21:59     ` Pavel Machek
2015-01-17 11:00       ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 16:41 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 22/22] arm: socfpga: spl: update pll_config for dev kit dinguyen at opensource.altera.com
2015-01-15  0:05   ` Marek Vasut
2015-01-14 23:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCHv1 00/22] Add SPL support for SoCFGPA Marek Vasut
2015-01-15 21:57 ` Pavel Machek

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