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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/9] EFI payload / application support
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 12:00:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151225170040.GD4093@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJs94Eacrf7KH2NaJa356o+Oy2zqbX0rmVUjHNz=mdofaqCq0Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 07:53:24PM +0300, Matwey V. Kornilov wrote:
> 2015-12-25 19:50 GMT+03:00 Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>:
> > On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 09:53:22AM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25.12.15 04:29, Tom Rini wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 02:57:47PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This is my Christmas present for my openSUSE friends :).
> >> >>
> >> >> U-Boot is a great project for embedded devices. However, convincing
> >> >> everyone involved that only for "a few oddball ARM devices" we need to
> >> >> support different configuration formats from grub2 when all other platforms
> >> >> (PPC, System Z, x86) are standardized on a single format is a nightmare.
> >> >>
> >> >> So we started to explore alternatives. At first, people tried to get
> >> >> grub2 running using the u-boot api interface. However, FWIW that one
> >> >> doesn't support relocations, so you need to know where to link grub2 to
> >> >> at compile time. It also seems to be broken more often than not. And on
> >> >> top of it all, it's a one-off interface, so yet another thing to maintain.
> >> >>
> >> >> That led to a nifty idea. What if we can just implement the EFI application
> >> >> protocol on top of U-Boot? Then we could compile a single grub2 binary for
> >> >> uEFI based systems and U-Boot based systems and as soon as that one's loaded,
> >> >> everything looks and feels (almost) the same.
> >> >>
> >> >> This patch set is the result of pursuing this endeavor.
> >> >
> >> > So, I owe the whole codebase a real review.  My very quick question
> >> > however is, aside from what you had to borrow from wine, can you license
> >> > everything else as GPL v2 or later rather than LGPL?
> >>
> >> I'm personally a pretty big fan of the LGPL, since it's a very
> >> reasonable compromise between closed and open source IMHO ;).
> >>
> >> Is there a particular reason you're asking for this? LGPL code is fully
> >> compatible with GPL code and the resulting binary would be GPL anyway
> >> because FWIW you can't compile U-Boot without GPL code inside.
> >
> > The general rules for U-Boot code are to be GPL v2 or later.  U-Boot is
> > (and always will be) a GPL v2 only project as there's simply too much
> > Linux kernel code that we want to leverage.  We do make special
> > exceptions at times for very good reasons (like include/android_image.h
> > is the authorative BSD-2 clause copy of that information) and I've even
> > told some companies that for crypto-auth-sensitive stuff they can do GPL
> > v2 only in their submission (again, due to U-Boot always being a v2 only
> > project).
> >
> > So, I'm not gonig to reject the EFI loader code if you say no, you won't
> > re-license it as GPL v2 (or v2 and later) but I'd really appreciate it.
> > Thanks!
> 
> If EFI loader is GPLed, then is it possible to use it to run non-GPLed
> (proprietary) EFI applications?

Yes.  Absolutely.  We've (pratically) always supported running non-GPL
payloads.  VxWorks has been supported for ages and ages and ages for
example.  There may be a thought experiment or two required about
callbacks but that's part of why we've had CONFIG_API, iirc.

-- 
Tom
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-22 13:57 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/9] EFI payload / application support Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/9] disk/part.c: Expose a list of available block drivers Alexander Graf
2016-01-14 19:18   ` Tom Rini
2016-01-14 23:11   ` Simon Glass
2016-01-14 23:33     ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15  0:46       ` Simon Glass
2016-01-15  1:04         ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/9] include/efi_api.h: Add more detailed API definitions Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/9] efi_loader: Add PE image loader Alexander Graf
2015-12-26 16:26   ` Leif Lindholm
2016-01-14 23:45     ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15 12:29       ` Leif Lindholm
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/9] efi_loader: Add boot time services Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 14:15   ` Andreas Färber
2015-12-22 14:31     ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-26 18:09   ` Leif Lindholm
2016-01-15  0:13     ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15 13:02       ` Leif Lindholm
2016-01-15 14:14         ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15 14:21           ` Leif Lindholm
2016-01-15 17:04             ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15  3:40     ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/9] efi_loader: Add console interface Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/9] efi_loader: Add runtime services Alexander Graf
2015-12-26 18:33   ` Leif Lindholm
2016-01-15  0:26     ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15 13:52       ` Leif Lindholm
2016-01-15 14:15         ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15 14:22           ` Leif Lindholm
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 7/9] efi_loader: Add disk interfaces Alexander Graf
2016-01-15  1:37   ` Simon Glass
2016-01-15  2:40     ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 8/9] efi_loader: Add "bootefi" command Alexander Graf
2015-12-24 11:15   ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2015-12-25  9:02     ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-25  9:25       ` Andreas Färber
2015-12-25  9:40         ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2015-12-25 17:04           ` Tom Rini
2015-12-26 18:55         ` Leif Lindholm
2015-12-27 15:33           ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-26 18:45       ` Leif Lindholm
2015-12-25 16:58     ` Tom Rini
2015-12-22 13:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 9/9] efi_loader: hook up in build environment Alexander Graf
2015-12-22 18:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/9] EFI payload / application support Matwey V. Kornilov
2015-12-22 20:32   ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-25  3:29 ` Tom Rini
2015-12-25  8:53   ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-25 16:50     ` Tom Rini
2015-12-25 16:53       ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2015-12-25 17:00         ` Tom Rini [this message]
2016-01-15  3:00       ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15  3:06         ` Tom Rini
2015-12-25 19:34 ` Blibbet
2015-12-26 15:31 ` Leif Lindholm
2015-12-26 16:27   ` Alexander Graf
2015-12-26 19:34     ` Leif Lindholm
2016-01-04 16:25       ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-04 16:56         ` Tom Rini
2016-01-04 18:03           ` Andreas Färber
2016-01-04 18:41             ` Andreas Färber
2016-01-04 19:54               ` Tom Rini
2016-01-04 22:37                 ` Dennis Gilmore
2016-01-04 22:48                   ` Alexander Graf
2016-01-15  3:40             ` Peter Robinson
2016-01-04 20:11           ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2016-01-15  3:32           ` Peter Robinson
2015-12-27 18:10   ` Tom Rini
2015-12-27 18:39     ` Leif Lindholm
2015-12-27 19:48       ` Tom Rini
2016-01-05 20:18       ` Tom Rini

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