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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [linux-sunxi] [PATCH v2 7/7] spl: nand: sunxi: add support for NAND config auto-detection
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:22:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160601152206.3b3a5d7d@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160601153507.2b57177f@i7>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:35:07 +0300
Siarhei Siamashka <siarhei.siamashka@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed,  1 Jun 2016 13:23:24 +0200
> Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com> wrote:
> 
> > NAND chips are supposed to expose their capabilities through advanced
> > mechanisms like READID, ONFI or JEDEC parameter tables. While those
> > methods are appropriate for the bootloader itself, it's way to
> > complicated and takes too much space to fit in the SPL.
> > 
> > Replace those mechanisms by a dumb 'trial and error' mechanism.
> > 
> > With this new approach we can get rid of the fixed config list that was
> > used in the sunxi NAND SPL driver.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
> > Acked-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>  
> 
> We can also have these NAND parameters stored in the SPL header and
> added there by a NAND image builder tool. This may save some precious
> space in the SPL and also improve the reliability of detection.
> 
> Yes, this brings the necessity of the image builder tool into the
> spotlight (something that converts the "u-boot-sunxi-with-spl.bin"
> to a NAND image) but this has always been a problem. We have some
> ongoing discussion about this in the linux-sunxi mailing list:
>     https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux-sunxi/HsWRG-nuV-w
> 
> It also makes a lot of sense to have the NAND support functionality
> enabled in the SPL for all sunxi boards by default, so the code size
> does matter. We still do have the runtime decompression opportunity
> as the strategic reserve [1], which should provide additional 4 or
> 5 KiB of space for the code. Still we need to be very careful about
> using up this reserve, to ensure that it is well spent on something
> useful (such as NAND support) instead of being just wasted by the
> bloatware cultists :-)

Oh, come one! I just did the test, and we save 352 bytes when dropping
the auto-detection code. Do we really want to delay the NAND support
just because you want the perfect solution (which as I already said,
will not be trivial to implement).

I'm not telling that your approach is wrong, just that it's not a
priority right now, so let's move on and improve it iteratively.


-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-01 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-01 11:23 [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 0/7] spl: nand: sunxi: implement auto-detection Boris Brezillon
2016-06-01 11:23 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 1/7] spl: nand: sunxi: remove support for so-called 'syndrome' mode Boris Brezillon
2016-06-01 11:23 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 2/7] spl: nand: rename the SYS_NAND_U_BOOT_OFFS Kconfig option Boris Brezillon
2016-06-04  1:08   ` Scott Wood
2016-06-04  6:06     ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-04  7:14       ` Scott Wood
2016-06-04 11:06         ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-06 17:16           ` Scott Wood
2016-06-06 18:40             ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-01 11:23 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 3/7] spl: nand: support redundant u-boot image Boris Brezillon
2016-06-04  1:15   ` Scott Wood
2016-06-04  6:15     ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-04  7:17       ` Scott Wood
2016-06-01 11:23 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 4/7] spl: nand: sunxi: stop guessing the redundant u-boot offset Boris Brezillon
2016-06-01 11:23 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 5/7] spl: nand: sunxi: rework status polling loop Boris Brezillon
2016-06-01 11:23 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 6/7] spl: nand: sunxi: split 'load page' and 'read page' logic Boris Brezillon
2016-06-01 11:23 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 7/7] spl: nand: sunxi: add support for NAND config auto-detection Boris Brezillon
2016-06-01 12:35   ` [U-Boot] [linux-sunxi] " Siarhei Siamashka
2016-06-01 13:22     ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2016-06-01 13:22     ` Maxime Ripard

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