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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] BOOT_DELAY broken
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:19:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160613061959.855C0101762@atlas.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.20.1606121324330.17506@maverick.koi8.net>

Dear Sergey,

In message <alpine.LFD.2.20.1606121324330.17506@maverick.koi8.net> you wrote:
> OK, it is broken in last commit. Totally broken.

So what?  Shit happens.  Calm down, it's only ones and zeroes.

> I do NOT have time chasing this -- I'm in firefighting mode now with 14
> hours workdays because of this Tuesday deadline -- but guys, WTF!?

Nobody asked you to fix that.  And that deadline thing is your
problem, not ours, right?  So please don't offload your frustration
and stress to others.

> I could understand somebody submitting such a stupid patch affecting
> _HUNDREDS_ of boards without thinking of consequences but why had it
> been accepted and applied to uboot-master right away? There are other
> things that are broken and won't compile but trivial one-line patches
> fixing that breakage are silently ignored but such a enormous screwup
> leaving holes all over is accepted right away without any checking...

Who says "without checking"?  As far as I know this patch has passed
buildman compile tests, plus runtime tests on all boards available to
the poster (which is more than the average developer has).

> Please do _NOT_ make such things any more. And if you do care please
> take my vehement NACK to this entire thing. I suggest it would be better
> to rollback that patch in its entirety -- there is too much work to fix
> the damage and there is absolutely no reason for this change at all in
> the first place.

Wrong approach.  If there are such obscure dependencies in U-Boot code
they SHOULD be cleaned up.  And yes, this can - and will -
occasionally cause temporary breakage, sometimes even in a large
scale.  But bugs are for fixing.  Bad code needs to be improved, not
to be conservated and never touched.  I strongly recommend to sort out
the remaining issues and fix the problems instead of ignoring them.
Papering over known issues has never been a clever idea.

> Sorry for ranting but I simply could not stand it...

I can understand your frustration, especially when working under
stress.  But eventually you may want to re-read your posting, think
about the tone which sounds extremely aggressive and insulting to me,
and then - maybe? - apologize to Heiko?

Thanks.

Wolfgang Denk

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-13  6:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-12 21:19 [U-Boot] BOOT_DELAY broken Sergey Kubushyn
2016-06-12 22:07 ` Ladislav Michl
2016-06-13  6:19 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]

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