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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] efi_loader: Do not enable it by default for sunxi
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:39:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171020163918.eqr42kyxjynpho4b@flea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171020125443.GF12015@bill-the-cat>

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 08:54:43AM -0400, Tom Rini wrote:
> > > >> > If it's a false one, then I guess Red Hat doesn't have any kind of
> > > >> > custom defconfigs for Fedora or RHEL for the kernel?
> > > >>
> > > >> kernel is part of the distro, "firmware" (ie. u-boot or whatever
> > > >> implements UEFI) should not be.. so this argument is a bit of a red
> > > >> herring.
> > > >
> > > > Then that discussion is entirely moot. If the distros don't care about
> > > > building the U-Boot binary, why should they care about maintaining the
> > > > U-Boot's defconfig like Peter was suggesting?
> > > 
> > > You're taking that and turning it around wrong, we currently have to
> > > care about building it. Ultimately what we'd like is to not have to
> > > care. One is the current status quo, the other is future desire!
> > 
> > Then we're back to the previous question you didn't answer. If you
> > have to build it, why can't you have a custom defconfig, or a
> > configuration fragment like Rob suggested, like you do for the kernel?
> 
> Because the goal is that boards ship from the manufacturer with a
> firmware that's "good enough".  And firmware updates are handled by
> Someone Else, rather than the distro.

We're talking about a vendor that ships today a U-Boot build that
either doesn't have DT support, or doesn't start the kernel in the
proper execution level which prevents any mainline kernel from
running.

Maybe it's just me being too pessimistic about this, but do you really
expect to see a time where they would ship a bootloader with EFI?

Maxmie

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-20 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-19  8:26 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/3] sunxi: Fix boot of Cubietruk and al Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19  8:26 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] ARM: sunxi: Disable USB host options by default Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19  8:48   ` Alexander Graf
2017-10-19  9:11     ` Andre Przywara
2017-10-19 11:55       ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19  8:54   ` Peter Robinson
2017-10-19 11:44   ` Mark Kettenis
2017-10-19  8:26 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/3] ARM: sunxi: Disable FAT write " Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19  8:26 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] efi_loader: Do not enable it by default for sunxi Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19  8:43   ` Peter Robinson
2017-10-19  9:01     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19  9:06       ` Peter Robinson
2017-10-19  9:12         ` Peter Robinson
2017-10-19 11:43           ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19 21:40             ` Rob Clark
2017-10-20  7:20               ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-20 12:27                 ` Peter Robinson
2017-10-20 12:36                   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-20 12:54                     ` Tom Rini
2017-10-20 16:39                       ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2017-10-20 17:57                         ` Tom Rini
2017-10-20 18:52                         ` Peter Robinson
2017-10-20 12:56                     ` Peter Robinson
2017-10-19  9:12         ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-23 13:35     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2017-10-19  8:51   ` Alexander Graf
2017-10-19 10:54     ` Jonathan Gray
2017-10-19 11:52     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19 11:39   ` Mark Kettenis
2017-10-19 11:48     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19 13:24   ` Tom Rini
2017-10-19  8:44 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/3] sunxi: Fix boot of Cubietruk and al Alexander Graf
2017-10-19  9:11   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19 12:10     ` Alexander Graf
2017-10-19  9:10 ` Siarhei Siamashka
2017-10-19 13:20   ` Tom Rini
2017-10-19 13:26   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19 13:03 ` Andre Przywara
2017-10-19 13:24   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-19 13:31     ` Tom Rini
2017-10-19 14:42     ` Andre Przywara
2017-10-19 14:58       ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-20 21:33         ` Dennis Gilmore
2017-10-23  7:35           ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-24 17:05             ` Dennis Gilmore
2017-10-24 17:21               ` Andre Przywara
2017-10-25  9:42                 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-25  9:55                   ` Jagan Teki
2017-10-25 12:30                     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-25 10:01                   ` Andre Przywara
2017-10-25 11:58                 ` Siarhei Siamashka
2017-10-25 13:42                   ` Andre Przywara
     [not found]                     ` <20171025184101.aihe47qongf52e7c@excalibur.cnev.de>
2017-10-26  1:46                       ` Dennis Gilmore
2017-10-25 13:45                   ` Tom Rini
2017-10-25 13:50                   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-10-20 21:31     ` Dennis Gilmore
2017-10-19 13:28 ` Tom Rini
2017-10-19 13:50   ` Maxime Ripard

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