From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/14] env: Multiple env support and env transition for sunxi
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 15:09:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171207200931.GF10129@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.f8d15c19daa14158145260d790deac55f3c66fb3.1511864667.git-series.maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:24:35AM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is an attempt at transitioning away from the MMC raw environment to a
> FAT-based one. Since the RFC was quite well received, I actually tested it
> and fixed a few rough edges.
>
> You'll find the first RFC here for reference:
> https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-October/310111.html
>
> And the second that originated in this series:
> https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2017-November/311608.html
>
> The fundamental issue I'm trying to adress is that we've had for a
> very long time the assumption that the main U-Boot binary wouldn't
> exceed around 500 bytes.
>
> However, we're starting to get real close to that limit, and are
> running out of silver bullets to deal with the consequences of having
> a bigger U-Boot binary, the main consequence being that we would
> have some overlap between the environment and U-Boot.
>
> One way to address this that has been suggested by Tom is to move away
> from the raw MMC environment to a FAT-based one. This would allow us
> to slowly migrate away, and eventually remove the MMC-raw option
> entirely to reclaim that space for the binary.
>
> That cannot be done in a single release however, since we might have
> environments in the wild already that people rely on. And since we
> always encouraged people to use the raw MMC environment, noone would
> expect that.
>
> This is even worse since some platforms are using the U-Boot
> environment to deal with implement their upgrade mechanism, such as
> mender.io, and force moving the environment would break any further
> upgrade.
>
> The suggested implementation is to allow U-Boot to compile multiple
> environments backend at once, based on the work done by Simon. The
> default behaviour shouldn't change obviously. We can then piggy-back
> on this to tweak on a per-board basis the environment lookup algorithm
> to always favour the FAT-based environment and then fallback to the
> MMC. It will allow us to migrate a raw-MMC user to a FAT based
> solution as soon as they update their environment (assuming that there
> is a bootable FAT partition in the system).
>
> This has just been compile tested on sunxi so far, and I'd like
> general comments on the approach taken. Obviously, this will need to
> work properly before being merged.
>
> Let me know what you think,
I think this is the right direction to head in. Can you please address
the few outstanding points / questions and have something posted shortly
after v2018.01 releases, and I'll apply it for inclusion in v2018.03?
Thanks!
--
Tom
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-28 10:24 [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/14] env: Multiple env support and env transition for sunxi Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 01/14] cmd: nvedit: Get rid of the env lookup Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:08 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 02/14] env: Rename env_driver_lookup_default and env_get_default_location Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:08 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 03/14] env: Pass additional parameters to the env lookup function Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:09 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-08 8:25 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2018-01-05 9:27 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 04/14] env: Make the env save message a bit more explicit Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:09 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 05/14] env: Make it explicit where we're loading our environment from Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:09 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 06/14] env: fat: Make the debug messages play a little nicer Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 07/14] env: mmc: " Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 08/14] env: common: " Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 09/14] env: Support multiple environments Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:10 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 10/14] env: Initialise all the environments Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 12:24 ` Quentin Schulz
2017-11-28 12:29 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:11 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/14] env: Allow to build multiple environments in Kconfig Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:11 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 12/14] env: Mark env_get_location as weak Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:14 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-29 3:13 ` Simon Glass
2018-01-05 9:29 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-01-08 4:52 ` Simon Glass
2018-01-09 13:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2018-01-09 16:05 ` Tom Rini
2018-01-11 15:35 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 13/14] sunxi: Transition from the MMC to a FAT-based environment Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:28 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-08 8:42 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:12 ` [U-Boot] ARM64 Allwinner Binary Size Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:15 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 13:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:30 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 14:09 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 14:16 ` Emmanuel Vadot
2017-12-19 14:20 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 14:22 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-19 14:24 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 13:28 ` Alexander Graf
2017-12-19 13:31 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 14:13 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 13:38 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-19 13:51 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-19 14:17 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-20 9:31 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-19 14:20 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 14:27 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-19 14:38 ` Jagan Teki
2017-12-19 14:41 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-12-19 14:50 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 14:41 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-19 15:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 15:44 ` Tom Rini
2017-12-19 15:50 ` Jagan Teki
2017-12-20 2:02 ` André Przywara
2017-12-19 13:41 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-19 15:24 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-19 22:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-20 1:55 ` André Przywara
2017-12-20 7:15 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-12-20 7:42 ` Mark Kettenis
2017-12-20 9:20 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-11-28 10:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 14/14] env: sunxi: Enable FAT-based environment support by default Maxime Ripard
2017-12-05 10:30 ` Andre Przywara
2017-12-07 20:09 ` Tom Rini [this message]
2017-12-08 9:05 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/14] env: Multiple env support and env transition for sunxi Maxime Ripard
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