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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 00/20] SPI-NAND support
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:46:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180625164656.6cb134c1@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMty3ZCe1O5j7=K--tTBS=yNwysyG9VMYhdR3MR8VJDX2r=A3g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:58:37 +0530
Jagan Teki <jagan@amarulasolutions.com> wrote:

> >>> - convert fsl-qspi to spi-mem  
> >>
> >> We're not targeting the fsl-qspi controller here but a simple SPI
> >> controller that is already upstreamed. But yes, the fsl-qspi driver
> >> will have to be patched to support the spi-mem interface at some point.  
> >
> > Can you point me that simple spi-mem controller driver?

It's not a controller that implements spi-mem operations but a simple
SPI controller (one that knows how to do regular SPI transfers and
nothing more). But the spi-mem layer knows how to send spi_mem_op using
regular transfer and that's why it works without any modification at
the driver level.


> >>>
> >>> For spi-nor interface design, we have an example code here[2]
> >>>
> >>> I've paused this [2] series because of dm conversion of spi-drivers
> >>> otherwise I need add legacy code like mmc-legacy.c, so if we really
> >>> move to spi-mem design and okay with above design. I will try to move
> >>> the current spi flash to add MTD driver-model so-that we can add
> >>> spi-mem, spi-nand on top of it or we can work together to convert them
> >>> all.  
> >>
> >> Why can't we do things iteratively. I mean, if the long term goal is to
> >> convert everything to the driver model, then this patchset is going in
> >> the right direction:
> >>  - addition of DM helpers to the MTD_UCLASS
> >>  - addition of the spi-mem interface properly integrated in the DM
> >>    model of the SPI framework
> >>  - addition of a SPI NAND driver, again properly integrated in the DM
> >>  - integration of DM-ready MTD drivers and old MTD drivers in a single
> >>    view exposed by the cmd/mtd.c command set
> >>
> >> I'd really like to limit the scope of this development to these topics,
> >> which doesn't prevent you from converting other part of u-boot to the
> >> spi-mem approach (SPI NOR is one example).
> >>
> >> I hope you understand our concerns and the fact that what you're asking
> >> us to do as a dependency of getting SPI NAND support + cmd/mtd.c merged
> >> is way more than we can actually provide.  
> >
> > To answer all these questions, I think we need to decide whether we go
> > for MTD dm abstraction or existing MTD layer.
> >
> > When I say MTD dm abstraction, all mtd operation prototypes are in the
> > form of udevice unlike existing MTD has mtd_info. when I initially
> > supporting spi-nor (during Linux early spi-nor) I've reused existing
> > MTD and written something like what Miquel did using mtd_info ops [3].
> > but then developers on ML, proposed the new drivers should be form of
> > driver-model abstraction, so I've added mtd driver model ops [4].
> >
> > I understand the new MTD dm abstraction in U-Boot is not possible for
> > direct syncing from Linux, but we really want the u-boot way of
> > handling drivers and trying to copy code from Linux by removing
> > __UBOOT__ or any Linux specific macros. Since this is pretty much big
> > task, ie the reason I'm asking for single driver from each MTD device
> > so-that once the clear stack is ready other drivers can convert
> > one-by-one.

I think I have to repeat my previous statement here. It would be very
unfortunate if u-boot decides to take this direction (see Richard's
reply), especially since I see absolutely no benefit in doing what you
suggest. Having MTD devices registered to the uboot DM is something I
can understand, deciding to no longer support the standard MTD API is
something I don't.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-25 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-06 15:30 [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 00/20] SPI-NAND support Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 01/20] mtd: Fallback to ->_read/write_oob() when ->_read/write() is missing Miquel Raynal
2018-06-27 10:52   ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 02/20] mtd: add get/set of_node/flash_node helpers Miquel Raynal
2018-06-27 10:53   ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 03/20] mtd: fix build issue with includes Miquel Raynal
2018-06-27 10:53   ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 04/20] mtd: move definitions to enlarge their range Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 05/20] mtd: move all flash categories inside MTD submenu Miquel Raynal
2018-06-27 10:56   ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 06/20] mtd: move NAND fiels into a raw/ subdirectory Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 07/20] mtd: rename nand into rawnand in Kconfig prompt Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 08/20] mtd: nand: Add core infrastructure to deal with NAND devices Miquel Raynal
2018-06-27 11:08   ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-27 12:48     ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-27 21:35       ` Tom Rini
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 09/20] mtd: nand: Pass mode information to nand_page_io_req Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 10/20] spi: Extend the core to ease integration of SPI memory controllers Miquel Raynal
2018-07-06 11:32   ` Jagan Teki
2018-07-11 13:55     ` Miquel Raynal
2018-07-11 14:37       ` Jagan Teki
2018-07-11 15:10         ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 11/20] mtd: nand: Add core infrastructure to support SPI NANDs Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 12/20] mtd: spinand: Add initial support for Micron MT29F2G01ABAGD Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 13/20] mtd: spinand: Add initial support for Winbond W25M02GV Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 14/20] mtd: spinand: Add initial support for the MX35LF1GE4AB chip Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 15/20] mtd: spinand: Add initial support for the MX35LF2GE4AB chip Miquel Raynal
2018-06-22 12:03   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-26  7:54     ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 16/20] mtd: uclass: add probe function Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 17/20] cmd: mtd: add 'mtd' command Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 19:45   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 13:51     ` Miquel Raynal
2018-07-11 14:01       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-11 14:17         ` Miquel Raynal
2018-07-06 11:38   ` Jagan Teki
2018-07-06 12:26     ` Miquel Raynal
2018-07-06 13:21       ` Stefan Roese
2018-07-06 13:42         ` Miquel Raynal
2018-07-06 13:51           ` Stefan Roese
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 18/20] dt-bindings: Add bindings for SPI NAND devices Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 19/20] mips: dts: ocelot: describe SPI CS pins Miquel Raynal
2018-06-06 15:30 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 20/20] mips: dts: ocelot: add the SPI NAND node Miquel Raynal
2018-06-07  5:51 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 00/20] SPI-NAND support Jagan Teki
2018-06-07  8:41   ` Miquel Raynal
2018-06-18  8:07     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-25  8:29     ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-25  9:09       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-25 12:38         ` Richard Weinberger
2018-06-25 14:27         ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-25 14:28           ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-25 14:46             ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2018-06-25 14:55               ` Tom Rini
2018-06-25 14:59                 ` Stefan Roese
2018-06-25 18:37                 ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-25 19:58                   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-06-25 20:01                     ` Tom Rini
2018-06-27 11:43                     ` Jagan Teki
2018-06-25 14:36           ` Richard Weinberger
2018-06-12 14:14 ` Stefan Roese
2018-06-18  8:13   ` Miquel Raynal
2018-07-06 11:43 ` Jagan Teki
2018-07-06 12:06   ` Miquel Raynal
2018-07-06 12:15     ` Jagan Teki
2018-07-06 17:48       ` Tom Rini

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