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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] [RFC] blk: Increase cache element size
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 12:27:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180815162729.GO30947@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0db4d121-efb2-5f71-fc15-b5116695e322@denx.de>

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 06:20:16PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 08/15/2018 06:12 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 06:04:50PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > 
> >> On 08/15/2018 04:30 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 01:20:29PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Cache up to 4 kiB entries. 4 kiB is the default block size on ext4, yet
> >>>> the underlying block layer devices usually report support for 512B . In
> >>>> most cases, the 512B support is emulated (ie. SD cards, SSDs, USB sticks
> >>>> etc.) and the real block size of those devices is much bigger.
> >>>>
> >>>> To avoid performance degradation with such devices and FS setup, bump
> >>>> the maximum cache entry size to 4 kiB.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> >>>> Cc: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
> >>>> Cc: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> >>>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
> >>>
> >>> I'll pick this up post v2018.09 if no one objects, thanks!
> >>
> >> I object. I was hoping there'd be some discussion on how to solve this
> >> in a future-proof manner ... it's only a matter of time until someone
> >> uses ext4 with 8k blocks on an SSD ...
> > 
> > In general, sure?  In specific, mkfs.ext4 1.42.13 man page says 1/2/4KiB
> > are the only valid values of block size, and based on having to whack
> > this for some other projects it's pretty common for OpenEmbedded at
> > least to spit out 1KiB block size images.
> 
> OE spits 4k , that's how I triggered it,
> meta/classes/image_types.bbclass:EXTRA_IMAGECMD_ext2 ?= "-i 4096"
> meta/classes/image_types.bbclass:EXTRA_IMAGECMD_ext3 ?= "-i 4096"
> meta/classes/image_types.bbclass:EXTRA_IMAGECMD_ext4 ?= "-i 4096"

That's bytes-per-inode, I was referring to block size which is -b and
dynamic unless specified.

> > So unless you know of cases
> > today (or tomorrow, but not next year) where 8KiB is common or likely,
> > we should probably just bump this for now and maybe make it a tunable so
> > it's easily changed?
> 
> It is already tunable, see blkcache config in blkcache command.
> 
> But what I'd like to see is somehow the FS and the underlying storage
> negotiating the best settings. Can we get the FS block size from the
> block cache perspective ?

Good questions that I don't have an answer to.

-- 
Tom
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-15 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-08 11:20 [U-Boot] [PATCH] [RFC] blk: Increase cache element size Marek Vasut
2018-08-15 14:30 ` Tom Rini
2018-08-15 16:04   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-15 16:12     ` Tom Rini
2018-08-15 16:20       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-15 16:27         ` Tom Rini [this message]
2018-08-16 11:42           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-17  2:43             ` Tom Rini
2018-08-17 10:13               ` Marek Vasut
2019-01-16  2:39 ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,RFC] " Tom Rini

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