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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] CVE-2018-18439, CVE-2018-18440 - U-Boot verified boot bypass vulnerabilities
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:22:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181111142225.B10F5242DCA@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181109094615.GC9586@lambda.inversepath.com>

Dear Andrea,

In message <20181109094615.GC9586@lambda.inversepath.com> you wrote:
>
> Exactly, merely checking RAM size is not sufficient. The specific memory
> layout would need to be accounted for which means understanding where the
> stack and heap are located, their direction of growth and to ensure that the
> loaded payload can never overwrite them along with all other U-Boot data
> segments.

This is pretty easy.  On all architectures I'm aware of the stack
has the lowest location in memory, and is growing downward.

> This is not easy given that the stack and heap size I think can only be
> guessed and not precisely limited, additionally board configurations have the
> ability to set arbitrary stack, relocation and load addresses which
> complicates things even further in understanding exactly how the memory
> layout is set.

I think this is not that complicated.  At least in standard U-Boot
(not speaking for SPL) it should be sufficient to check the current
stack pointer (which is easy to read) and take this a upper limit of
available/allowed memory. If we add some reasonable safety margin
(say, 1 MB or so) we should be really safe.

> > Additionally, your patch checks the loaded file's size without taking
> > the load address into account. So unless I read that wrong, your check
> > is only valid for 'addr == 0'.

The approach is also not appliccable to networ boot; with TFTP we
don't know the image size in advance.

Eventyally the boundary checking should be done where the image
content actually gets copied to memory.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-11 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-06 14:51 [U-Boot] CVE-2018-18439, CVE-2018-18440 - U-Boot verified boot bypass vulnerabilities Andrea Barisani
2018-11-09  0:37 ` Fabio Estevam
2018-11-09  6:11   ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-09  9:46     ` Andrea Barisani
2018-11-09 10:24       ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-09 21:25         ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-09 22:14           ` Fabio Estevam
2018-11-11 14:22       ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2018-11-11 23:21         ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-11-12  6:56           ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-12 18:03             ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-11-12 18:58               ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-12  8:00           ` Wolfgang Denk
2018-11-13 20:57 ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-14 11:52   ` Andrea Barisani
2018-11-14 12:03     ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-14 14:45       ` Andrea Barisani
2018-11-14 15:13         ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-14 15:26           ` Andrea Barisani
2018-11-14 15:35             ` Daniele Bianco
2018-11-14 15:51               ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-14 19:07                 ` Simon Goldschmidt
2018-11-14 23:36                   ` Joe Hershberger

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