From: AKASHI, Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] RSA in U-Boot
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 09:26:50 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190517002649.GY11160@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <99c1f624-be7f-b6ab-10be-420129670dbf@csgraf.de>
Thank all of you who commented on my question.
@Laszlo, I agree to the criteria that you mentioned.
good user base is a crucial factor for security code.
@Paolo, I have had no idea about license term issues. You're right.
@Heinrich, thank you for pointing out gnutls. I'm stilling looking
into the code, but my first impression is that it is not
well optimized for *smaller* system.
@Sughosh, as Paolo mentioned, LibreSSL may have a similar license issue:
The license term seems to be a variant of 3-clause BSD, and some
file header says,
* The licence and distribution terms for any publically available version or
* derivative of this code cannot be changed. i.e. this code cannot simply be
* copied and put under another distribution licence
* [including the GNU Public Licence.]
Thanks,
-Takahiro Akashi
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:05:27AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> On 25.04.19 04:12, AKASHI, Takahiro wrote:
> > Update and reminder.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:17:14AM +0900, AKASHI, Takahiro wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'd like to discuss this topic in public.
> >> I will appreciate your comments here.
> >> # FYI, I now started to experimentally port linux's pkcs7/x509
> >> # parser.
> > I've done porting linux's pkcs7/x509 parsers and they work well
> > with my UEFI secure boot patch, but I'm still looking for other options
> > as well.
> >
> > * openssl
> > Most of existing components linked to UEFI secure boot, including
> > EDK2, shim and grub, reply on this library. Why not for U-Boot?
> > The size of U-Boot UEFI code in U-Boot is already quite big, and
> > so the size of openssl won't be a big issue.
> > * mbedTLS
> > which is maintained by ARM and used with Zephyr, I guess it should
> > have small footprint. But it currently lacks pkcs7 parser.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
>
>
> Paolo, Laszlo, Ard, if you could write a new secure boot implementation
> today, which of the options above would you pick and why so? :)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Takahiro Akashi
> >
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Takahiro Akashi
> >>
> >> ----- Forwarded message from Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> -----
> >>
> >> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 19:56:10 -0700
> >> From: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> >> To: "AKASHI, Takahiro" <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
> >> Subject: Re: RSA in U-Boot
> >>
> >> Hi Takahiro,
> >>
> >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 17:27, AKASHI, Takahiro
> >> <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>> Hi Simon,
> >>>
> >>> Before I start discussions publicly, I'd like to hear
> >>> your opinion first.
> >> I do think it is better to discuss this in public since there will be
> >> other opinions.
> >>
> >>> I'm now working on implementing "secure boot"
> >>> for UEFI U-Boot.
> >>>
> >>> As you might know, there are a couple of features
> >>> required to achieve "secure boot":
> >>> (I won't discuss about secure storage here though.)
> >>> - x509 certificate decoder
> >>> - pkcs7 decoder (for PE file's signature)
> >>> - RSA verification
> >>> - (hash digest, sha256)
> >>>
> >>> The original code, which was written by some other guy,
> >>> Patrick, uses BearSSL for x509 and RSA and
> >>> I'm now wondering what is the best solution.
> >>> Obviously, I can think of several options here:
> >>> 1. use BearSSL
> >>> 1.a just import minimum set of files akin lib/libfdt
> >>> 1.b link whole BearSSL as a library, merging the code
> >>> as git submodule
> >>> 2. use openssl
> >>> 3. import linux kernel code, particularly x509 & pkcs7 parser
> >>> 4. write our own code
> >>>
> >>> I suppose that you weighed similar choices when you implemented
> >>> "FIT image signing".
> >>> Can you share your opinion with me?
> >> I think if you can do 3 then it keeps U-Boot self-contained and
> >> perhaps provides for simple code. That said, if the amount of code is
> >> large and has an upstream there is clear precident for 1a, as you say.
> >>
> >> I am not sure about 4. If it is a relatively small amount of code,
> >> then maybe, but surely it makes sense to use the linux code where
> >> possible. That is what I did with the U-Boot livetree code.
> >>
> >> 1b sounds painful to me.
> >>
> >>> Regarding your lib/rsa code, you intentionally avoided to
> >>> add formula of inverse-mod and power-mod of R. Do you still
> >>> believe that the assumption is appropriate?
> >>> (BearSSL implements its own montgomery.
> >> If you look at a talk I gave on this, you can see that one of the
> >> goals was to implement it efficiently, with minimal extra code at
> >> run-time, and minimal memory usage. So unpacking complex key
> >> structures did not seem like a good idea. From memory you can do
> >> verified boot in about 7KB of extra code in U-Boot and it runs in a
> >> small number of milliseconds.
> >>
> >> UEFI is obviously pretty big, so perhaps efficiency concerns are less
> >> important. More important probably is wide compatibility, supporting
> >> all possible options, etc.
> >>
> >> I hope this is helpful.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Simon
> >>
> >> ----- End forwarded message -----
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-18 2:17 [U-Boot] RSA in U-Boot AKASHI, Takahiro
2019-04-25 2:12 ` AKASHI, Takahiro
2019-04-26 9:05 ` Alexander Graf
2019-04-26 20:16 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-04-27 5:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-04-27 6:33 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-05-16 7:23 ` Sughosh Ganu
2019-05-16 10:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-05-16 10:45 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-05-16 11:13 ` Tom Rini
2019-05-16 11:19 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-05-16 11:56 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-05-16 12:07 ` Tom Rini
2019-05-16 12:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-05-17 0:12 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-05-17 8:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-05-22 5:48 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 5:27 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 14:04 ` Tom Rini
2019-08-27 10:35 ` Grant Likely
2019-08-27 23:55 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-05-16 17:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-05-17 0:26 ` AKASHI, Takahiro [this message]
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