From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC 6/6] efi_loader: variable: support runtime variable access via cache
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:34:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190618103448.GA25137@apalos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190618011903.GF6610@linaro.org>
Hi all,
[...]
> > >>I think one version of the functions serving at runtime and boottime is
> > >>enough.
> > >>
> > >>The cache should be used both at runtime and at boottime.
> > >
> > >So do you mean that we should replace the existing "boottime" version
> > >of get/set_variable with my code (algorithm)?
> > >
> > >This is a bit complicated work because we should be able to *udpate*
> > >UEFI variables at boottime, but my version of hsearch_runtime() is
> > >a stripped (and modified) version and doesn't support it.
> >
> > Do we really need a multilevel hash table? I would not expect hundreds
> > of variables.
>
> Please don't change your point suddenly.
> Here we are discussing whether "The cache should be used both at runtime
> and at boottime" or not.
>
Heinrich, the idea here is to present a copy of the variables on the OS
and totally disable RT variable updating from the OS.
If someone wants to update UEFI variables, we can pack them to a Capsule
(using FIT image format) and apply them on next reboot.
Given the fact that UEFI variables are not updated that often, isn't this a
viable option? If it is, then we need to keep the access separated
(as Akashi-san suggests) allowing bootime to change the variables.
> > >
> > >Making the existing hsearch_r() executable at UEFI runtime is,
> > >as I said before, quite painful.
> >
> > You could start the cache implementation with a less complicated data
> > structure like a linked list.
>
> This is totally a different issue. I listed this issue
> in my cover letter.
>
> > >
> > >>Essentially I
> > >>expect three modules working together:
> > >>
> > >>UEFI API implementation <-> Cache <-> Persistence driver
> > >>
> > >>I would suggest to put each of these into a separate file.
> > >>
> > >>Both the API implementation and the Cache have to be available at
> > >>Boottime and at Runtime. A first version of the persistence driver may
> > >>only be working at boottime.
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, this is not practical right now because there is
> > >already some sort of assumption (and consensus) that we would re-use
> > >"Standalone MM services", which is already there in EDK2, as
> > >secure storage for UEFI variables.
> > >In the case, all the cache would be bypassed.
> > >In my old prototype, I utilized the cache but dropped that feature
> > >for several reasons.
> >
> > What has EDK2 code to do with it?
>
> Did you follow my comment below?
> > >Unfortunately, this is not practical right now because there is
> > >already some sort of assumption (and consensus) that we would re-use
> > >"Standalone MM services", which is already there in EDK2, as
> > >secure storage for UEFI variables.
We are already working towards having StandAloneMM as an early OP-TEE TA.
This will provide us with a secure variable storage for armv7/v8.
>
> > In case of write you could do a write-through in your cache if needed.
> >
> > >
> > >>The NV-cache content should be written to non-volatile memory on Reset()
> > >>and on ExitBootServices() and if possible when updating variables at
> > >>runtime.
> > >
> > >I'm not sure your intent here, but are you going to write back
> > >the cache only once?
> > >It won't work as every change of UEFI variable must be flushed
> > >to persistent storage instantly.
> >
> > >
Thanks
/Ilias
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-18 10:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-05 4:21 [U-Boot] [RFC 0/6] efi_loader: support runtime variable access via cache AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 4:21 ` [U-Boot] [RFC 1/6] efi_loader: runtime: make SetVirtualAddressMap configurable AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-15 19:46 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-15 21:14 ` Mark Kettenis
2019-06-16 21:52 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-18 18:11 ` Mark Kettenis
2019-06-17 1:05 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 4:21 ` [U-Boot] [RFC 2/6] efi: add RuntimeServicesSupported variable AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-13 5:56 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-13 7:06 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-13 9:17 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-13 9:21 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-05 4:21 ` [U-Boot] [RFC 3/6] efi_loader: support convert_pointer at runtime AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-15 19:41 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-17 1:15 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-17 5:41 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-07-13 6:16 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-05 4:21 ` [U-Boot] [RFC 4/6] efi_loader: Patch non-runtime code out at ExitBootServices already AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 4:21 ` [U-Boot] [RFC 5/6] cmd: efidebug: add "boot exit" sub-command AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 4:21 ` [U-Boot] [RFC 6/6] efi_loader: variable: support runtime variable access via cache AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-15 19:01 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-17 1:51 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-17 19:52 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-18 1:19 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-18 2:25 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-18 10:34 ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2019-06-18 20:45 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-19 1:25 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-19 5:13 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-06-19 6:24 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-06-19 7:07 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 10:34 ` [U-Boot] [RFC 0/6] efi_loader: " Heinrich Schuchardt
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