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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [RFC 11/14] efi_loader: variable: export variables table for runtime access
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 11:30:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200319093033.GA2230@apalos.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200318015343.GS13880@linaro.org>

Akashi-san,

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:53:45AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 08:37:47AM +0100, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> > On 3/17/20 3:12 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > > There are platforms on which OS's won't be able to access UEFI variables
> > > at runtime (i.e. after ExitBootServices).
> > > With this patch, all the UEFI variables are exported as a configuration
> > > table so as to enable retrieving variables' values from the table, and
> > > later modifying them via capsule-on-disk if necessary.
> > 
> > I do not understand why we should expose our internal memory for holding
> > UEFI variables to the operating system. This might end up in users
> > trying to access the variables directly.
> 
> I think that you somehow misunderstand my code as it never exposes
> any "internal memory," although I don't know what it exactly means in
> this context.
> This configuration table is nothing but a list of data that represent
> all the UEFI variables in implementation-agnostic format.
> 
> > I do not understand why we should not keep the pointer in our private
> > memory.
> 
> Anyway, this patch naively implements Peter's proposal while I also
> submitted another patch[1] that allows HL-OS to use GetVariable
> interface directly via *caching*.

How are the two approaches going to affect existig tools (i.e efivar --list) to
read the variables?

> 
> Since how we should enable accessing UEFI variables at runtime is
> one of key issues, I'd rather discuss in boot-arch ML as I suggested
> in the cover letter.
> I have already re-activated the discussion there[2].
> Please make your comments there for wider audience.
> 
> [1] https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2019-June/371769.html
> [2] https://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/boot-architecture/2020-March/001149.html
> 
Will do

Regards
/Ilias

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-19  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-17  2:12 [RFC 00/14] efi_loader: add capsule update support AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 01/14] efi_loader: define OsIndicationsSupported flags AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  7:03   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18  1:18     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-18 18:01       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 02/14] efi_loader: define System Resource Table macros AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  7:06   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18 18:02     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 03/14] efi_loader: export a couple of protocol related functions AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  7:19   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18 18:03   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 04/14] efi_loader: correct a definition of struct efi_capsule_header AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  7:25   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18 18:03   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 05/14] efi_loader: define UpdateCapsule api AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 06/14] efi_loader: capsule: add capsule_on_disk support AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-18  8:55   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-19 17:08     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-30  7:43       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 07/14] efi_loader: capsule: add memory range capsule definitions AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  8:11   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18  1:22     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-18  7:35       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18  7:57         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-04-06  7:48           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 08/14] efi_loader: capsule: support firmware update AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-18 14:09   ` Sughosh Ganu
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 09/14] efi_loader: add simple firmware management protocol for FIT image AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-18  8:04   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18  8:17     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-18  9:06       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-04-06  7:59         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 10/14] efi_loader: capsule: support variable update AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 11/14] efi_loader: variable: export variables table for runtime access AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  7:37   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18  1:53     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-19  9:30       ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2020-03-18 13:54   ` Sughosh Ganu
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 12/14] cmd: add "efidebug capsule" command AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 13/14] tools: add mkeficapsule command for UEFI capsule update test AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  7:58   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18  1:32     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-19  8:55       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2020-03-17  2:12 ` [RFC 14/14] test/py: add efi capsule test AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-17  7:49 ` [RFC 00/14] efi_loader: add capsule update support Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-18  2:04   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-31  4:36     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-04-14  4:38       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-18 18:16 ` Sughosh Ganu

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