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From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [PATCH 09/16] efi_loader: imply FAT, FAT_WRITE
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 16:04:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200401070403.GU11504@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01de804a-5394-7d27-7e52-090873aa88f1@gmx.de>

On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:31:10AM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> On 4/1/20 3:14 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:57:33AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 03:08:06PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >>> On 2020-03-31 09:44, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:44:02AM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >>>>> On  March 31, 2020, 5:28 a.m. UTC Takahiro Akashi wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 06:27:53AM +0100, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >>>>>>> The UEFI spec requires support for the FAT file system.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>  lib/efi_loader/Kconfig | 2 ++
> >>>>>>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig b/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> >>>>>>> index 9890144d41..e10ca05549 100644
> >>>>>>> --- a/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> >>>>>>> +++ b/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> >>>>>>> @@ -15,6 +15,8 @@ config EFI_LOADER
> >>>>>>>  	select HAVE_BLOCK_DEVICE
> >>>>>>>  	select REGEX
> >>>>>>>  	imply CFB_CONSOLE_ANSI
> >>>>>>> +	imply FAT
> >>>>>>> +	imply FAT_WRITE
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Obviously, this *imply* doesn't enforce enabling FAT.
> >>>>>> If it is absolutely necessary, another measure should be taken.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If somebody wants to minimize the U-Boot size it might be necessary to
> >>>>> do without FAT_WRITE or FAT support.
> >>>>
> >>>> If so, Get/SetVariable won't be supported even in boot time
> >>>> with your patch applied. It is not practical for almost all users.
> >>>
> >>> Hello Akashi,
> >>>
> >>> without FAT_WRITE we will not have persistence for variables.
> >>> SetVariable and GetVariable are still usable.
> >>
> >> How about CONFIG_FAT?
> >
> > (=> What if !CONFIG_FAT)

?

> >
> >
> > More fundamentally,
> > Why do you want to use a file as storage device for variables?
> > why not raw partition (or just part of partition) on, say,
> > NOR or eMMC?
> >
> > As you know, EDK2 saves variables directly on NOR (or block device?
> > probably).
> 
> Yes, we may add further stores later on.

Why not now?
How will you generalize it?

> Ilias wants to use the RPMB
> area of eMMC devices.

I think that he plans to use RPMB as secure storage for Standalone MM.

> As an EFI system partition exists on any UEFI
> compatible device I think implementing this first is a valid approach.

I don't deny your approach here, but
I expect that more generic framework for back storage be
implemented and FAT driver be on top of that.

-Takahiro Akashi

> 
> Best regards
> 
> Heinrich
> 
> >
> > -Takahiro Akashi
> >
> >> -Takahiro Akashi
> >>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Heinrich
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In addition, why do you treat FAT specifically here?
> >>>>>> I remember that you insisted that other file system should be
> >>>>>> allowed on U-Boot when I posted some patch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> An EFI system partition is always FAT formatted. So if we want to safe
> >>>>> U-Boot variables to the EFI system partition we require FAT.
> >>>>
> >>>> As system partition is required to be in FAT, file system used on
> >>>> other partitions must also be in FAT since, as I said before,
> >>>> UEFI specification clearly defines its file system format based on FAT.
> >>>> See section 13.3.
> >>>>
> >>>> So,
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I remember that you insisted that other file system should be
> >>>>>> allowed on U-Boot when I posted some patch.
> >>>>
> >>>> You reverted your statement above here.
> >>>> That is my point.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Takahiro Akashi
> >>>>
> >>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Heinrich
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Takahiro Akashi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  	imply USB_KEYBOARD_FN_KEYS
> >>>>>>>  	imply VIDEO_ANSI
> >>>>>>>  	help
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> 2.25.1
> >>>
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-01  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-27  5:27 [PATCH 00/16] efi_loader: non-volatile and runtime variables Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 01/16] cmd: efidebug: fix int to pointer cast Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 02/16] efi_loader: only reserve memory if fdt node enabled Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 03/16] efi_loader: eliminate EFI_CALL() for variable access Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 04/16] part: detect EFI system partition Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  6:35   ` Punit Agrawal
2020-03-27  7:21     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 05/16] efi_loader: identify " Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 06/16] efi_loader: keep attributes in efi_set_variable_int() Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 07/16] efi_loader: export initialization state Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 08/16] efi_loader: change setup sequence Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 09/16] efi_loader: imply FAT, FAT_WRITE Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-31  5:28   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-31  6:44   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-31  7:44     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-31  8:20       ` Mark Kettenis
2020-04-01  0:31         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-04-01  6:43           ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-04-01 17:56           ` Mark Kettenis
2020-04-02  1:34             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-31 13:08       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-31 23:57         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-04-01  1:14           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-04-01  6:31             ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-04-01  7:04               ` AKASHI Takahiro [this message]
2020-04-02 12:33                 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 10/16] efi_loader: UEFI variable persistence Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  8:07   ` Punit Agrawal
2020-03-27 10:30     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-30 10:03       ` Punit Agrawal
2020-04-06 16:06       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-01-02 22:15   ` Peter Robinson
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 11/16] efi_loader: export efi_convert_pointer() Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 12/16] efi_loader: optional pointer for ConvertPointer Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-31  5:23   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-31  6:52   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-31  7:51     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 13/16] efi_loader: memory buffer for variables Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27  8:09   ` Punit Agrawal
2020-03-27 10:45     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-30 10:50       ` Punit Agrawal
2020-03-27  5:27 ` [PATCH 14/16] efi_loader: use memory based variable storage Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-27 19:44 ` [PATCH 00/16] efi_loader: non-volatile and runtime variables Simon Glass
2020-03-28  6:42   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-31  6:05 ` [PATCH 15/16] efi_loader: enable UEFI variables at runtime Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-03-31  6:05   ` [PATCH 15/16] efi_selftest: adjust runtime test for variables Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-04-01  1:41   ` [PATCH 15/16] efi_loader: enable UEFI variables at runtime AKASHI Takahiro
2020-04-01  6:26     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-04-01  6:51       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-03-31  6:07 ` [PATCH 16/16] efi_selftest: adjust runtime test for variables Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-04-01  1:05   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2020-04-01  6:37     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-04-01  7:27       ` AKASHI Takahiro

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