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From: Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/1] dfu: remove UPDATE_TFTP
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 13:49:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200828134915.3d1a2a54@jawa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29021059-721e-9ce4-4b1e-90b897b65d3c@denx.de>

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:03:35 +0200
Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:

> On 8/28/20 12:00 PM, Lukasz Majewski wrote:
> > Hi Marek,  
> 
> Hi,
> 
> >> On 8/28/20 11:11 AM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:  
> >>> On 28.08.20 10:42, Marek Vasut wrote:    
> >>>> On 8/28/20 4:32 AM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:    
> >>>>> On 7/21/20 8:02 PM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:    
> >>>>>> Using UPDATE_TFTP the firmware can be updated from TFTP by
> >>>>>> writing to NOR flash. The same is possible by defining a dfu
> >>>>>> command in CONFIG_PREBOOT.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The dfu command cannot only write to NOR but also to other
> >>>>>> devices. In README.dfutfp UPDATE_TFTP has been marked as
> >>>>>> deprecated. It is not used by any board.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Remove TFTP update via CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Adjust the documentation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> v2:
> >>>>>> 	rework the documentation    
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/28/20 12:17 AM, Marek Vasut wrote (in reply to a pull
> >>>>> request):    
> >>>>>> Also note that the UPDATE_TFTP is being actively used, why is
> >>>>>> it removed here and this late in rc3 ? I think these patches
> >>>>>> should really be postponed until after the release.    
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Marek,    
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>    
> >>>>> do you see a problem in principal with the removal of
> >>>>> UPDATE_TFTP which is redundant to what you can do with DFU or
> >>>>> is it only the timing issue?    
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't see how it is redundant. The usecase I see is a fitImage
> >>>> which contains the update fragments is applied with a single
> >>>> command this way. I don't see a suitable replacement.
> >>>>    
> >>>
> >>> Hello Marek,
> >>>
> >>> CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP=y does not support any command except the dfu
> >>> tftp command which is not changed by this patch.
> >>>
> >>> CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP=y further activates updating NOR flash by
> >>> reading from a tftp server on every boot without any user
> >>> control. Other target media are not supported. This is what is
> >>> removed by the patch. And this is what can be replaced using
> >>> preboot.
> >>>
> >>> I could not find a single config that uses UPDATE_TFTP. So where
> >>> is this automated update of NOR flash really used?    
> >>
> >> I have it enabled on boards where it cannot be enabled upstream
> >> (for various reasons), the following is enabled there:
> >>
> >> CONFIG_CMD_DFU=y
> >> CONFIG_CMD_FITUPD=y
> >> CONFIG_DFU_RAM=y
> >> CONFIG_DFU_TFTP=y
> >> CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP=y  
> > 
> > Marek, could you share those reasons? And why above CONFIG* options
> > cannot be set in the upstream?  
> 
> Platform security, U-Boot isn't the update mechanism there, but it's
> convenient to use U-Boot as update mechanism during development
> (RCar3).

Then, I think that it would be OK, to add extra (single)
rcar*_devel_defconfig to -master U-Boot.

I did similar thing with display5 (so there were two versions - one for
production and one for factory setup).

> 
> > It is the often practice to grep sources to look for "dead" configs
> > (i.e. those which are not referenced on any board) and then remove
> > features on this basis.  
> 
> You might end up removing functionality which is useful to people
> this way.

This is not my idea. Linux community uses is widely.


Best regards,

Lukasz Majewski

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-28 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-21 18:02 [PATCH v2 1/1] dfu: remove UPDATE_TFTP Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-08-28  2:32 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-08-28  8:42   ` Marek Vasut
2020-08-28  9:11     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-08-28  9:45       ` Marek Vasut
2020-08-28 10:00         ` Lukasz Majewski
2020-08-28 10:03           ` Marek Vasut
2020-08-28 11:49             ` Lukasz Majewski [this message]
2020-08-28 12:20             ` Tom Rini
2020-10-15  6:30               ` CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-10-15 12:40                 ` CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP Marek Vasut
2020-10-15 12:48                   ` CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-10-15 13:05                     ` CONFIG_UPDATE_TFTP Marek Vasut
2020-08-28  9:21     ` [PATCH v2 1/1] dfu: remove UPDATE_TFTP Lukasz Majewski

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