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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de>
Cc: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>,
	u-boot@lists.denx.de, Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/10] watchdog: wdt-uclass.c: handle all DM watchdogs in watchdog_reset()
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 08:35:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210817123506.GH858@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0cc966dd-906b-7023-a58b-0cfb414f9ad6@denx.de>

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:28:39AM +0200, Stefan Roese wrote:
> On 12.08.21 15:48, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 08:40:21AM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > > Dear Tom,
> > > 
> > > In message <20210811124318.GT858@bill-the-cat> you wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > This argument fits on all types or effors: they are supposed to
> > > > > never ever happen - at least in theory; in reality they do, and more
> > > > > often than we like.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And a proper error message is mandatory for correct error handling.
> > > > 
> > > > Error messages are a fine line to walk.  We've got to have been very
> > > > badly corrupted to go down this error path.  There's going to be lots of
> > > > other error messages popping out.  Saving a bit of .text is good.  It
> > > > makes it easier to justify spending a little .text later.
> > > 
> > > Letting errors slip through unnoticed when there is a trival way to
> > > at least inform the user of the problem is simply unacceptable.
> > > 
> > > Please do not let U-Boot degrade into such a crappy piece of code.
> > > 
> > > There are tons of other places where we don't even mention code
> > > size, so if you want to save on that, there are many bette4r places
> > > to save than error handling.
> > 
> > Alright, lets take a look at what kind of area of the code we're talking
> > about.  uclass_get is a pretty fundamental thing.  If that fails, your
> > system is on fire.  Things are massively corrupt.  Lets look at other
> > existing callers to see what happens.  Most callers check the return
> > code, like you need to, and pass it up the chain to deal with.  We have
> > a few board specific ones such as
> > board/Marvell/octeontx2/board.c::board_quiesce_devices() that is also
> > conceptually like the x530 case in the next part of the series.  That
> > does print on failure.  The rest of the ones that print an error message
> > are about commands and it's somewhat helpful there.
> > 
> > So yes, return codes need to be checked and passed.  But no, not every
> > single error path needs to print to the user along every part of an
> > error path either.
> > 
> > > > And here I agree, catch an error code, pass the error code back to the
> > > > caller.  That's far more important than making sure that every error
> > > > code we catch logs a message by default every time.
> > > 
> > > It does not matter where the error is reported - in the called
> > > function, or in some caller firther up the call tree.  But it _must_
> > > be reportet at least once.
> > > 
> > > So if we don't issue an error message here, we need to check and fix
> > > the callers, too.
> > 
> > That would be the next patch in the series where the BSP author isn't
> > currently checking the return value, and this series doesn't change
> > that.  Perhaps it should, and CC the maintainer.  But I think has been
> > said a few times over the course of this series, what exactly is one
> > going to do about the failure?  Getting specific for a moment, if you're
> > in the case of "shutdown the watchdog" and the watchdog doesn't shutdown
> > like you want it to, do you hang and hope the watchdog is alive to kick
> > things still?  hang and lock the system?  Figure the system is on fire
> > anyhow but add another message to the failure spew?
> > 
> > Again, I think the change that's needed to this patch is to make it
> > return the error code to the caller.  Let the caller decide.  And make
> > sure to CC the board maintainer on the next go-round so they can chime
> > in about that.
> 
> Getting back to this to hopefully get this decided:
> 
> It seems that we (most of us?) agree on this change, that wdt_stop_all()
> shall be changed to return an error code and the caller can decide what
> to do with it?
> 
> If yes, then Rasmus, could you please re-spin this patchset accordingly
> and send v6?

Yes, please and thanks.

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-17 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-02 15:00 [PATCH v4 00/10] handling all DM watchdogs in watchdog_reset() Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] watchdog: wdt-uclass.c: use wdt_start() in wdt_expire_now() Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] watchdog: wdt-uclass.c: introduce struct wdt_priv Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-03  6:30   ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] watchdog: wdt-uclass.c: neaten UCLASS_DRIVER definition Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] watchdog: wdt-uclass.c: refactor initr_watchdog() Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] watchdog: wdt-uclass.c: keep track of each device's running state Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] sandbox: disable CONFIG_WATCHDOG_AUTOSTART Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] watchdog: wdt-uclass.c: handle all DM watchdogs in watchdog_reset() Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 19:22   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-03  6:29   ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-03  8:28   ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-11 11:32     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-11 11:49       ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-11 12:13         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-11 12:19           ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-11 12:29           ` Wolfgang Denk
2021-08-11 12:43             ` Tom Rini
2021-08-12  6:40               ` Wolfgang Denk
2021-08-12 13:48                 ` Tom Rini
2021-08-12 14:12                   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-12 14:21                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2021-08-12 16:20                     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-13  6:17                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2021-08-17  9:28                   ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-17 12:35                     ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-08-27  6:30                       ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-27 12:26                         ` Tom Rini
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] watchdog: add gpio watchdog driver Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] sandbox: add test of wdt_gpio driver Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-02 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] sandbox: add test of wdt-uclass' watchdog_reset() Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-11  6:05 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] handling all DM watchdogs in watchdog_reset() Rasmus Villemoes
2021-08-11  6:10   ` Stefan Roese
2021-08-11  6:19     ` Rasmus Villemoes

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