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From: ChrisO <armbian@osk.ch>
To: Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>
Cc: ChrisO <armbian@osk.ch>,
	u-boot@lists.denx.de, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
Subject: Re: u-boot & ZFS
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:25:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210818132558.GA22786@server> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210818122611.756d7634@ktm>

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:26:11PM +0200, Lukasz Majewski wrote:
> Hi ChrisO,
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 08:35:14PM -0400, Tom Rini wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 06:03:10PM +0200, ChrisO wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Hi
> > > > 
> > > > I searched for u-boot ZFS references and all I found was several
> > > > years old, but I suppose u-boot can cope with ZFS. So, my
> > > > question is: is it possible to boot Linux from ZFS or at least
> > > > boot from let's say SD-card with ext4 FS and mount a ZFS volume
> > > > as root filesystem? I had a look at Armbian, installed all
> > > > needed, user-space and kernel modules. After booting from SD card
> > > > I can use ZFS on attached SATA SSD w/o any problem. I also see
> > > > ZFS libs and kernel modules in initrd,  so it looks like the
> > > > necessary things are there. Don't know where to start. I would be
> > > > very thankful for any help.  
> > > 
> > > The general easy answer is to have /boot that is separate from the
> > > rootfs and using a filesystem more commonly supported.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Tom  
> > 
> > Sounds like: go away kid, play with your old toys ;-)
> > I was doing it the traditional way for long time, now wanted to try
> > something new. Isn't it how we progress? I came to this list hoping
> > to get an answer to my question. I know, most of you on this list
> > have more important things to do. But giving me some advice could
> > possibly result in me giving something back.
> > 
> 
> Similar question I saw on OpenEmbedded/Yocto ML recenly. The answer
> there was that "ZFS or ZOL is _not_ [*] commonly used on embedded
> systems, so no support was needed" 
> 
> If find this topic interesting, then the community will try to help
> when you provide any patches for review.
> 
> However, considering the above, it may be hard for any _exact_
> guidelines.
> 
> 
> Note:
> [*] - Personally, I didn't saw any usage of ZFS on embedded systems.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Lukasz Majewski
> 
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Hallo Lukasz

My system in question is not an embeded one. I just stated to play with an Odroid-HC4 and Armbian.
It has two SATA connectors, boots from a SD card.
All computer I use which have more than one disk connected are set-up with software RAID and LVM on top of it.
ZFS has both build-in it's why I asked.
Currently I have on this HC4 two partitions on each disk, the smaller ones are in RAID1 and host root FS, the bigger ones are in a mirrored Zpool. It works OK, it would be nicer to have just one filesystem, though.

Still not sure, it can or cannot be done?

Thanks and regards,
Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-18 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-17 16:03 u-boot & ZFS ChrisO
2021-08-18  0:35 ` Tom Rini
2021-08-18  9:41   ` ChrisO
2021-08-18 10:26     ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-08-18 13:25       ` ChrisO [this message]
2021-08-18 13:53         ` Tom Rini
2021-08-18 17:23           ` ChrisO
2021-08-18 14:07         ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-18 14:12         ` Dimitri John Ledkov
2021-08-18 16:28           ` ChrisO

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