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From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>,
	U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Steffen Jaeckel <jaeckel-floss@eyet-services.de>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	Dennis Gilmore <dennis@ausil.us>,
	Daniel Schwierzeck <daniel.schwierzeck@gmail.com>,
	Lukas Auer <lukas.auer@aisec.fraunhofer.de>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@samsung.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <mbrugger@suse.com>, Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/28] Initial implementation of bootmethod/bootflow
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 12:15:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210820031518.GA13452@laputa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ2-VxTEhUdgX8raaQNmEJm3xH6A0bdrpZxmcZVGCyWvGg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Simon,

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:25:33AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 07:59, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:45:33PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> >
> > > Bootmethod and bootflow provide a built-in way for U-Boot to automatically boot
> > > an Operating System without custom scripting and other customisation:
> > >
> > >   - bootmethod - a method to scan a device to find bootflows (owned by U-Boot)
> > >   - bootflow - a description of how to boot (owned by the distro)
> > >
> > > This series provides an initial implementation of these, enable to scan
> > > for bootflows from MMC and Ethernet. The only bootflow supported is
> > > distro boot, i.e. an extlinux.conf file included on a filesystem or
> > > tftp server. It works similiarly to the existing script-based approach,
> > > but is native to U-Boot.
> > >
> > > With this we can boot on a Raspberry Pi 3 with just one command:
> > >
> > >    bootflow scan -lb
> > >
> > > which means to scan, listing (-l) each bootflow and trying to boot each
> > > one (-b). The final patch shows this.
> > >
> > > It is intended that this approach be expanded to support mechanisms other
> > > than distro boot, including EFI-related ones. With a standard way to
> > > identify boot devices, these features become easier. It also should
> > > support U-Boot scripts, for backwards compatibility only.
> > >
> > > The first patch of this series moves boot-related code out of common/ and
> > > into a new boot/ directory. This helps to collect these related files
> > > in one place, as common/ is quite large.
> > >
> > > Like sysboot, this feature makes use of the existing PXE implementation.
> > > Much of this series consists of cleaning up that code and refactoring it
> > > into something closer to a module that can be called, teasing apart its
> > > reliance on the command-line interpreter to access filesystems and the
> > > like. Also it now uses function arguments and its own context struct
> > > internally rather than environment variables, which is very hard to
> > > follow. No core functional change is included in the included PXE patches.
> > >
> > > For documentation, see the 'doc' patch.
> > >
> > > There is quite a long list of future work included in the documentation.
> > > One question is the choice of naming. Since this is a bootloader, should
> > > we just call this a 'method' and a 'flow' ? The 'boot' prefix is already
> > > shared by other commands like bootm, booti, etc.

Regarding the naming, I'm still a bit confused with bootmethod vs.
bootflow. Personally, I prefer a more intuitive name against bootmethod,
say, bootmedia or bootdevice (as the original distro_bootcmd uses).

> > > The design is described here:
> > >
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ggW0KJpUOR__vBkj3l61L2dav4ZkNC12/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > The series is available at u-boot-dm/bmea-working
> >
> > My question / concern is this.  Would the next step here be to
> > implement the generic UEFI boot path?  Today, I can write Fedora 34 for
> > AArch64 to a USB stick, boot U-Boot off of uSD card and the installer
> > automatically boots.  I'm sure I could do the same with the BSDs.
> > Reading the documentation left me with the impression that every OSV
> > would be expected to write something, so that their installer / OS boot.
> > But there's already standards for that, which they do, and we should be
> > implementing (and do, via the current distro_boot) or making easier to
> > enable.  Thanks!

I had the same concern.

> Here you are talking about scanning for a bootflow. It is not actually
> OS-specific. If it were, there would be no point to this :-)
> 
> If you look in the distro scripts you will see 'scan_dev_for_efi' (and
> also scan_dev_for_scrips). At least the first needs to be implemented
> a bit like the distro boot is at present. So far I have only
> implemented scan_dev_for_extlinux (plus pxe) as it is enough to show
> the concept.
> 
> Adding EFI it's likely to be about the same amount of code as distro.c
> at present, perhaps a little less since we don't have the network
> case. It is used by Fedora 34, I believe, so is easy enough for me to
> do.  But I wanted to get something out as the concept is visible in
> this series.

If I correctly understand this framework, we will have to
write several functions:
(Here I will ignore "UEFI boot manager" sequence.)

1)boot/distro_efi.c
   distro_boot_efi_setup()  ; almost the same as distro_boot_setup()
   distro_boot_efi()        ; search for /EFI/BOOT/BOOTAA64.EFI (and dtb)

2)boot/bootflow.c
   bootmethod_find_efi_in_blk()
      call distro_boot_efi_setup()
   bootflow_boot()
      CASE BOOTFLOWT_DISTRO_EFI: ; new bootflow type
          call distro_boot_efi()

3)drivers/mmc/mmc_bootmethod.c
   mmc_efi_get_bootflow()
      call bootmethod_find_efi_in_blk()
   U_BOOT_DRIVER(mmc_efi_bootmethod) =
      .name           = "mmc_efi_bootmethod",
      .id             = UCLASS_BOOTMETHOD,

4)drivers/mm/Makefile
   obj-$(CONFIG_$(SPL_TPL_)BOOTMETHOD) += mmc_bootmethod.o mmc_efi_bootmethod.o

Do you think that the above is correct?
If so, does (3) (+ (1)/(2)) inevitably increase the code size
as we need functions for all devices?

-Takahiro Akashi


> Regards,
> Simon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-20  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-19  3:45 [PATCH 00/28] Initial implementation of bootmethod/bootflow Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 01/28] Create a new boot/ directory Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 02/28] pxe: Move API comments to the header files Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 03/28] pxe: Use a context pointer Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 04/28] pxe: Move do_getfile() into the context Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 05/28] pxe: Add a userdata field to " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 06/28] pxe: Tidy up the is_pxe global Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 07/28] pxe: Move pxe_utils files Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 08/28] pxe: Tidy up some comments in pxe_utils Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 09/28] pxe: Tidy up code style a little " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 10/28] pxe: Move common parsing coding into pxe_util Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 11/28] pxe: Clean up the use of bootfile Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 12/28] pxe: Drop get_bootfile_path() Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 13/28] lib: Add tests for simple_itoa() Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 14/28] lib: Add a function to convert a string to a hex value Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 15/28] pxe: Return the file size from the getfile() function Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 16/28] pxe: Refactor sysboot to have one helper Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 17/28] doc: Move distro boot doc to rST Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 18/28] pxe: Allow calling the pxe_get logic directly Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 19/28] bootmethod: Add the uclass and core implementation Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 20/28] bootmethod: Add an implementation of distro boot Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 21/28] bootmethod: Add a command Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 22/28] bootflow: " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 23/28] bootmethod: Add tests for bootmethod and bootflow Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 24/28] bootmethod: doc: Add documentation Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 25/28] mmc: Allow for children other than the block device Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 26/28] mmc: Add a bootmethod Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:46 ` [PATCH 27/28] ethernet: " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:46 ` [PATCH 28/28] RFC: rpi: Switch over to use bootflow Simon Glass
2021-08-19 13:59 ` [PATCH 00/28] Initial implementation of bootmethod/bootflow Tom Rini
2021-08-19 14:25   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-19 17:27     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-23 12:35       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-08-23 17:25         ` Simon Glass
2021-08-23 20:08           ` Tom Rini
2021-08-24  9:29             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-08-25 13:11               ` Simon Glass
2021-08-25 13:29                 ` Peter Robinson
2021-08-25 21:34                   ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-25 21:58                     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-20  3:15     ` AKASHI Takahiro [this message]
2021-08-20 18:22       ` Simon Glass
2021-08-23  0:46         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-08-23 11:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-23 17:25   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-23 20:01     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-24 10:22       ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-25 10:45         ` Emmanuel Vadot
2021-08-25 13:11           ` Simon Glass
2021-08-25 14:42             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-08-25 14:56               ` Tom Rini
2021-08-25 21:54                 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-25 22:06                   ` Tom Rini
2021-08-26  6:33                     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-08-26 13:03                       ` Tom Rini
2021-08-26 12:01                     ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-26 13:00                       ` Tom Rini
2021-08-26 13:32                         ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-26 13:50                           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-08-26 11:55                 ` Peter Robinson

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