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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>,
	U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Steffen Jaeckel <jaeckel-floss@eyet-services.de>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	Dennis Gilmore <dennis@ausil.us>,
	Daniel Schwierzeck <daniel.schwierzeck@gmail.com>,
	Lukas Auer <lukas.auer@aisec.fraunhofer.de>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@samsung.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <mbrugger@suse.com>, Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/28] Initial implementation of bootmethod/bootflow
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:01:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210823200146.GG858@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ1M4d5AAHjHaoDL76_bY_E2j4CjpOT9TyHRqQSTyNM4Tg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:25:42AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 at 05:54, Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 21:45:33 -0600
> > >
> > > Bootmethod and bootflow provide a built-in way for U-Boot to automatically boot
> > > an Operating System without custom scripting and other customisation:
> > >
> > >   - bootmethod - a method to scan a device to find bootflows (owned by U-Boot)
> > >   - bootflow - a description of how to boot (owned by the distro)
> > >
> > > This series provides an initial implementation of these, enable to scan
> > > for bootflows from MMC and Ethernet. The only bootflow supported is
> > > distro boot, i.e. an extlinux.conf file included on a filesystem or
> > > tftp server. It works similiarly to the existing script-based approach,
> > > but is native to U-Boot.
> > >
> > > With this we can boot on a Raspberry Pi 3 with just one command:
> > >
> > >    bootflow scan -lb
> > >
> > > which means to scan, listing (-l) each bootflow and trying to boot each
> > > one (-b). The final patch shows this.
> > >
> > > It is intended that this approach be expanded to support mechanisms other
> > > than distro boot, including EFI-related ones. With a standard way to
> > > identify boot devices, these features become easier. It also should
> > > support U-Boot scripts, for backwards compatibility only.
> > >
> > > The first patch of this series moves boot-related code out of common/ and
> > > into a new boot/ directory. This helps to collect these related files
> > > in one place, as common/ is quite large.
> > >
> > > Like sysboot, this feature makes use of the existing PXE implementation.
> > > Much of this series consists of cleaning up that code and refactoring it
> > > into something closer to a module that can be called, teasing apart its
> > > reliance on the command-line interpreter to access filesystems and the
> > > like. Also it now uses function arguments and its own context struct
> > > internally rather than environment variables, which is very hard to
> > > follow. No core functional change is included in the included PXE patches.
> > >
> > > For documentation, see the 'doc' patch.
> > >
> > > There is quite a long list of future work included in the documentation.
> > > One question is the choice of naming. Since this is a bootloader, should
> > > we just call this a 'method' and a 'flow' ? The 'boot' prefix is already
> > > shared by other commands like bootm, booti, etc.
> > >
> > > The design is described here:
> > >
> > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ggW0KJpUOR__vBkj3l61L2dav4ZkNC12/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > The series is available at u-boot-dm/bmea-working
> >
> > How does the user control the order in which devices are scanned/booted?
> 
> That is not supported in distroboot at present, at least so far as I
> can see. For Fedora it seems to happen in grub. Do I have that right?

Well, there's "find the next stage", which is boot_targets environment
variable, and then "where that next stage looks for stuff" which is
OS-dependent.  Sometimes the ESP grub.cfg file is just enough to tell
grub to find the full grub.cfg file elsewhere, and sometimes it's a full
grub.cfg file.  I think Mark is talking about the former, and you've
said it's not part of this series, yet, but on the TODO list.

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-23 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-19  3:45 [PATCH 00/28] Initial implementation of bootmethod/bootflow Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 01/28] Create a new boot/ directory Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 02/28] pxe: Move API comments to the header files Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 03/28] pxe: Use a context pointer Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 04/28] pxe: Move do_getfile() into the context Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 05/28] pxe: Add a userdata field to " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 06/28] pxe: Tidy up the is_pxe global Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 07/28] pxe: Move pxe_utils files Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 08/28] pxe: Tidy up some comments in pxe_utils Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 09/28] pxe: Tidy up code style a little " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 10/28] pxe: Move common parsing coding into pxe_util Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 11/28] pxe: Clean up the use of bootfile Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 12/28] pxe: Drop get_bootfile_path() Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 13/28] lib: Add tests for simple_itoa() Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 14/28] lib: Add a function to convert a string to a hex value Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 15/28] pxe: Return the file size from the getfile() function Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 16/28] pxe: Refactor sysboot to have one helper Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 17/28] doc: Move distro boot doc to rST Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 18/28] pxe: Allow calling the pxe_get logic directly Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 19/28] bootmethod: Add the uclass and core implementation Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 20/28] bootmethod: Add an implementation of distro boot Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 21/28] bootmethod: Add a command Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 22/28] bootflow: " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 23/28] bootmethod: Add tests for bootmethod and bootflow Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 24/28] bootmethod: doc: Add documentation Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 25/28] mmc: Allow for children other than the block device Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:45 ` [PATCH 26/28] mmc: Add a bootmethod Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:46 ` [PATCH 27/28] ethernet: " Simon Glass
2021-08-19  3:46 ` [PATCH 28/28] RFC: rpi: Switch over to use bootflow Simon Glass
2021-08-19 13:59 ` [PATCH 00/28] Initial implementation of bootmethod/bootflow Tom Rini
2021-08-19 14:25   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-19 17:27     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-23 12:35       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-08-23 17:25         ` Simon Glass
2021-08-23 20:08           ` Tom Rini
2021-08-24  9:29             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-08-25 13:11               ` Simon Glass
2021-08-25 13:29                 ` Peter Robinson
2021-08-25 21:34                   ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-25 21:58                     ` Tom Rini
2021-08-20  3:15     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-08-20 18:22       ` Simon Glass
2021-08-23  0:46         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-08-23 11:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-23 17:25   ` Simon Glass
2021-08-23 20:01     ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-08-24 10:22       ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-25 10:45         ` Emmanuel Vadot
2021-08-25 13:11           ` Simon Glass
2021-08-25 14:42             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-08-25 14:56               ` Tom Rini
2021-08-25 21:54                 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-25 22:06                   ` Tom Rini
2021-08-26  6:33                     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-08-26 13:03                       ` Tom Rini
2021-08-26 12:01                     ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-26 13:00                       ` Tom Rini
2021-08-26 13:32                         ` Mark Kettenis
2021-08-26 13:50                           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-08-26 11:55                 ` Peter Robinson

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