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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
Cc: U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@csgraf.de>,
	Masahisa Kojima <masahisa.kojima@linaro.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: Pull request for efi-2021-10-rc4
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:39:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210904173949.GI12964@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46CAD3CD-41FA-43B9-9099-225711B754E1@gmx.de>

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On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 07:03:48PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 4. September 2021 16:37:22 MESZ schrieb Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>:
> >On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 03:08:38PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Am 4. September 2021 15:01:11 MESZ schrieb Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>:
> >> >On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Dear Tom,
> >> >> 
> >> >> The following changes since commit 94509b79b13e69c209199af0757afbde8d2ebd6d:
> >> >> 
> >> >>   btrfs: Use default subvolume as filesystem root (2021-09-01 10:11:24
> >> >> -0400)
> >> >> 
> >> >> are available in the Git repository at:
> >> >> 
> >> >>   https://source.denx.de/u-boot/custodians/u-boot-efi.git
> >> >> tags/efi-2021-10-rc4
> >> >> 
> >> >> for you to fetch changes up to 1dfa494610c5469cc28cf1f8538abf4be6c00324:
> >> >> 
> >> >>   efi_loader: fix efi_tcg2_hash_log_extend_event() parameter check
> >> >> (2021-09-04 09:15:09 +0200)
> >> >> 
> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Pull request for efi-2021-10-rc4
> >> >> 
> >> >> Documentation:
> >> >> 
> >> >>     Remove invalid reference to configuration variable in UEFI doc
> >> >> 
> >> >> UEFI:
> >> >> 
> >> >>     Parameter checks for the EFI_TCG2_PROTOCOL
> >> >>     Improve support of preseeding UEFI variables.
> >> >>     Correct the calculation of the size of loaded images.
> >> >>     Allow for UEFI images with zero VirtualSize
> >> >> 
> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Heinrich Schuchardt (5):
> >> >>       efi_loader: sections with zero VirtualSize
> >> >>       efi_loader: rounding of image size
> >> >>       efi_loader: don't load signature database from file
> >> >>       efi_loader: efi_auth_var_type for AuditMode, DeployedMode
> >> >>       efi_loader: correct determination of secure boot state
> >> >> 
> >> >> Masahisa Kojima (3):
> >> >>       efi_loader: add missing parameter check for EFI_TCG2_PROTOCOL api
> >> >>       efi_loader: fix boot_service_capability_min calculation
> >> >>       efi_loader: fix efi_tcg2_hash_log_extend_event() parameter check
> >> >
> >> >And I don't see Simon's revert in here either.  And he asked you about
> >> >that yesterday:
> >> >https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAPnjgZ3eRdjF0jb9S-cJK6y+feuyRyWf0hNkf2triB4DR4UFBQ@mail.gmail.com/
> >> >
> >> >So at this point, are you asserting there is nothing to revert?
> >> 
> >> Never. Simons "revert" is breaking functionality. The concept for suporting blobs in devicetrees supplied by a prior bootstage has not been defined yet.
> >
> >And to be clearer, reverting something that was introduced in one rc in
> >a later rc isn't breaking functionality.  U-Boot releases (well, the
> >non-rc ones for sure) are on a very regular schedule.  External projects
> >may not depend on some feature introduced at -rcN unless they're willing
> >to accept that some changes could happen before release.
> >
> 
> There is no value delivered by Simon's series. Neither does the image get smaller nor does it fix anything. If he wants to enforce a design, it must work for all use cases. But this requires some conceptual work.

Yes, and what's the rush to not do the conceptual work?  If I recall
part of the thread correctly, yes, Simon didn't get his objections in
before the patches were merged, but it was early enough in the release
cycle that taking a step back and reverting was a reasonable request.
What he had said wouldn't have changed if he had gotten the email out a
few days earlier.

So yes, please merge Simon's revert, or post and merge new more minimal
revert that brings things to the same functional end.  There are
objections to this implementation, and thus far Simon has been
responding all of the requests to better clarify all of the related code
and concepts that have been asked of him, so that in the end an
implementation that fulfills all of the technical requirements can be
created, that hopefully leaves all parties satisfied.

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-04 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-04  9:56 Pull request for efi-2021-10-rc4 Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-09-04 10:10 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-09-06 14:31   ` Tom Rini
2021-09-04 13:01 ` Tom Rini
2021-09-04 13:08   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-09-04 13:19     ` Tom Rini
2021-09-04 14:37     ` Tom Rini
2021-09-04 17:03       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-09-04 17:39         ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-09-04 18:02           ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-09-04 18:08             ` Tom Rini
2021-09-04 20:08               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-09-06  0:47                 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-09-09  8:56                 ` Simon Glass
2021-09-09 11:21                   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-09-09 12:01                     ` Tom Rini
2021-09-09  8:56             ` Simon Glass
2021-09-09 10:52               ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-09-09 12:08                 ` Tom Rini
2021-09-09 20:08                   ` Simon Glass
2021-09-09 20:44                     ` Tom Rini
2021-09-09 21:22                     ` Mark Kettenis
2021-09-10 10:28                       ` François Ozog
2021-09-09 12:17               ` François Ozog
2021-09-09 20:08                 ` Simon Glass
2021-09-10 10:40                   ` François Ozog

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