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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
Cc: u-boot@lists.denx.de,
	Aleksandar Gerasimovski
	<aleksandar.gerasimovski@hitachi-powergrids.com>,
	Andreas Biessmann <andreas@biessmann.org>,
	Eugen Hristev <eugen.hristev@microchip.com>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	Patrice Chotard <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>,
	Patrick Delaunay <patrick.delaunay@foss.st.com>,
	Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	Siew Chin Lim <elly.siew.chin.lim@intel.com>,
	Valentin Longchamp <valentin.longchamp@hitachi-powergrids.com>,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] mtd: spi: Set CONFIG_SF_DEFAULT_MODE default to 0
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:44:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210914214425.GL12964@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d242cc1-9f48-7dec-9edf-9c6121b4d1d0@denx.de>

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On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:30:01PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 9/14/21 10:45 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:10:22PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > On 9/14/21 9:19 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 08:28:24PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Before e2e95e5e254 ("spi: Update speed/mode on change") most systems
> > > > > silently defaulted to SF bus mode 0. Now the mode is always updated,
> > > > > which causes breakage. It seems most SF which are used as boot media
> > > > > operate in bus mode 0, so switch that as the default.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This should fix booting at least on Altera SoCFPGA, ST STM32, Xilinx
> > > > > ZynqMP, NXP iMX and Rockchip SoCs, which recently ran into trouble
> > > > > with mode 3. Marvell Kirkwood and Xilinx microblaze need to be checked
> > > > > as those might need mode 3.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>
> > > > > Cc: Aleksandar Gerasimovski <aleksandar.gerasimovski@hitachi-powergrids.com>
> > > > > Cc: Andreas Biessmann <andreas@biessmann.org>
> > > > > Cc: Eugen Hristev <eugen.hristev@microchip.com>
> > > > > Cc: Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>
> > > > > Cc: Patrice Chotard <patrice.chotard@foss.st.com>
> > > > > Cc: Patrick Delaunay <patrick.delaunay@foss.st.com>
> > > > > Cc: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>
> > > > > Cc: Siew Chin Lim <elly.siew.chin.lim@intel.com>
> > > > > Cc: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
> > > > > Cc: Valentin Longchamp <valentin.longchamp@hitachi-powergrids.com>
> > > > > Cc: Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>
> > > > 
> > > > So, some background.  With commit 88e34e5ff76b ("spl: replace
> > > > CONFIG_SPL_SPI_* with CONFIG_SF_DEFAULT_*") CONFIG_SF_DEFAULT_MODE and
> > > > related moved from having their default value of SPI_MODE_3 (which
> > > > evaluates to 3) be defined in common/cmd_sf.c if not otherwise defined,
> > > > to include/spi_flash.h, and a more visible global default than it was
> > > > before.  At that time, the following platforms either set or implied
> > > > SPI_MODE_3 should be used:
> > > > alt am335x_boneblack am335x_boneblack_vboot am335x_evm_norboot
> > > > am335x_evm_nor am335x_evm am335x_evm_spiboot am335x_evm_usbspl
> > > > am43xx_evm am43xx_evm_qspiboot at91sam9n12ek_mmc at91sam9n12ek_nandflash
> > > > at91sam9n12ek_spiflash at91sam9x5ek_dataflash at91sam9x5ek_mmc
> > > > at91sam9x5ek_nandflash at91sam9x5ek_spiflash atstk1004 bf506f-ezkit
> > > > bf537-stamp cam_enc_4xx coreboot-x86 d2net_v2 da830evm da850_am18xxevm
> > > > da850evm_direct_nor da850evm dra7xx_evm dra7xx_evm_qspiboot
> > > > dra7xx_evm_uart3 draco dreamplug dxr2 ea20 ecovec ethernut5 gplugd
> > > > inetspace_v2 k2e_evm k2hk_evm kmcoge5un km_kirkwood_128m16
> > > > km_kirkwood_pci km_kirkwood kmnusa kmsugp1 kmsuv31 koelsch lager lschlv2
> > > > lsxhl M53017EVB M54455EVB mgcoge3un mv88f6281gtw_ge net2big_v2
> > > > netspace_lite_v2 netspace_max_v2 netspace_mini_v2 netspace_v2
> > > > nios2-generic pcm051_rev1 pcm051_rev3 portl2 pxm2 rut sama5d3xek_mmc
> > > > sama5d3xek_nandflash sama5d3xek_spiflash sh7785lcr tseries_spi vf610twr
> > > > zynq_zc770_xm010
> > > > 
> > > > Of those platforms, I have handy dra7xx_evm (also am335x_evm but that
> > > > needs flipping some DIP switches) which has SPI flash by default.  With
> > > > current tip of tree, I did "sf probe 0 76800000 3" and a few cycles of
> > > > reading the whole of flash and crc32'ing it, and getting the same result
> > > > back.  So, SPI_MODE_3 seems correct / function here, and likely so on
> > > > the rest of the TI platforms listed above.
> > > > 
> > > > With commit 14453fbfadc2 ("Convert CONFIG_SF_DEFAULT_* to Kconfig") we
> > > > migrate these values to Kconfig, and a quick spot-check shows that yes,
> > > > the migration did not change any values.
> > > > 
> > > > A big change between 88e34e5ff76b and 14453fbfadc2 is that a ton of
> > > > platforms have been added (it was 5 years, after all) and those
> > > > platforms seem to be where the problems reside.  I'm not sure if or why
> > > > SPI_MODE_3 doesn't work on so many new platforms, but I would prefer to
> > > > see "default 0 if ARCH_SOCFPGA || ARCH_STM32 || .." as needed to switch
> > > > the default to SPI_MODE_0 if there's not a more fundamental problem to
> > > > solve on some platforms such that SPI_MODE_3 could / should be enabled.
> > > 
> > > I rather suspect mode 3 is special case for atmel/am335x and co. and maybe
> > > marvell kirkwood from the list above. So shouldn't we default to 0 and
> > > special-case the two or three instead ?
> > 
> > I guess my question boils down to why is that the right default?  My
> > argument that 3 is the right default is that it's what it was in
> > introduction back in b6368467e6a9 ("SPI Flash: Add "sf" command").  But
> > references to something else such as the Linux Kernel defaults to mode 0
> > or some SPI specs saying you should default to mode 0 or something else
> > would be much appreciated.
> 
> Probably check a couple of board schematics and SoC datasheets to build up
> your own statistics ? In Linux it is 0 because that's likely what most of
> the systems expect it to be, and the few odd ones just set it to 3
> explicitly there (or enable CPOL/CPHA as needed). My statistics indicates
> that I keep running into "oh, here it is also 3, and it should be 0"
> recently.
> 
> I don't have any of the am335x/atmel boards easily available, so I cannot
> check those, hence the CC list.

Sigh, OK.  Lets look at the kernel and there instead of SPI_MODE_N we
have spi-cpol and spi-cpha as properties.  A quick git grep -l spi-cp
arch/arm arch/arm64 shows where we likely do and do not need to use
something other than mode 0.  So yes, mode 0 as a default makes sense,
so long as we also don't break the easily found boards that do need mode
3 (or, mode 1 or 2, as of v5.19 it is true there's 59 matches for each
property, but it's not always both, sometimes it's one or the other).

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-14 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-14 18:28 [RFC][PATCH] mtd: spi: Set CONFIG_SF_DEFAULT_MODE default to 0 Marek Vasut
2021-09-14 19:19 ` Tom Rini
2021-09-14 20:10   ` Marek Vasut
2021-09-14 20:45     ` Tom Rini
2021-09-14 21:30       ` Marek Vasut
2021-09-14 21:44         ` Tom Rini [this message]
2021-09-15 17:55           ` Tom Rini
2021-09-15 18:52             ` Marek Vasut
2021-09-28 18:45 ` Tom Rini

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