From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>,
Alex Graf <agraf@csgraf.de>,
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/22] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to device model
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 19:40:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211012234028.GI7964@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ3jGytqYxZcYUg9koigkMhESznaShmyRJn5v1ViJoHn5A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 05:37:45PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 at 15:13, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 02:31:15PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 at 09:00, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 08:14:00AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > Hi Takahiro,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 23:02, AKASHI Takahiro
> > > > > <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The purpose of this RPC is to reignite the discussion about how UEFI
> > > > > > subystem would best be integrated into U-Boot device model.
> > > > > > In the past, I poposed a couple of patch series, the latest one[1],
> > > > > > while Heinrich revealed his idea[2], and the approach taken here is
> > > > > > something between them, with a focus on block device handlings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # The code is a PoC and not well tested yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Disks in UEFI world:
> > > > > > ====================
> > > > > > In general in UEFI world, accessing to any device is performed through
> > > > > > a 'protocol' interface which are installed to (or associated with) the device's
> > > > > > UEFI handle (or an opaque pointer to UEFI object data). Protocols are
> > > > > > implemented by either the UEFI system itself or UEFI drivers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For block IO's, it is a device which has EFI_BLOCK_IO_PROTOCOL (efi_disk
> > > > > > hereafter). Currently, every efi_disk may have one of two origins:
> > > > > > a.U-Boot's block devices or related partitions
> > > > > > (lib/efi_loader/efi_disk.c)
> > > > > > b.UEFI objects which are implemented as a block device by UEFI drivers.
> > > > > > (lib/efi_driver/efi_block_device.c)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All the efi_diskss as (a) will be enumelated and created only once at UEFI
> > > > > > subsystem initialization (efi_disk_register()), which is triggered by
> > > > > > first executing one of UEFI-related U-Boot commands, like "bootefi",
> > > > > > "setenv -e" or "efidebug".
> > > > > > EFI_BLOCK_IO_PROTOCOL is implemented by UEFI system using blk_desc(->ops)
> > > > > > in the corresponding udevice(UCLASS_BLK).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the other hand, efi_disk as (b) will be created each time UEFI boot
> > > > > > services' connect_controller() is executed in UEFI app which, as a (device)
> > > > > > controller, gives the method to access the device's data,
> > > > > > ie. EFI_BLOCK_IO_PROTOCOL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> more details >>>
> > > > > > Internally, connect_controller() search for UEFI driver that can support
> > > > > > this controller/protocol, 'efi_block' driver(UCLASS_EFI) in this case,
> > > > > > then calls the driver's 'bind' interface, which eventually installs
> > > > > > the controller's EFI_BLOCK_IO_PROTOCOL to efi_disk object.
> > > > > > 'efi_block' driver also create a corresponding udevice(UCLASS_BLK) for
> > > > > > * creating additional partitions efi_disk's, and
> > > > > > * supporting a file system (EFI_SIMPLE_FILE_SYSTEM_PROTOCOL) on it.
> > > > > > <<< <<<
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Issues:
> > > > > > =======
> > > > > > 1. While an efi_disk represents a device equally for either a whole disk
> > > > > > or a partition in UEFI world, the device model treats only a whole
> > > > > > disk as a real block device or udevice(UCLASS_BLK).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. efi_disk holds and makes use of "blk_desc" data even though blk_desc
> > > > > > in plat_data is supposed to be private and not to be accessed outside
> > > > > > the device model.
> > > > > > # This issue, though, exists for all the implmenetation of U-Boot
> > > > > > # file systems as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, this was a migration convenience and we should be able to unpick it now.
> > > > >
> > > > > However we still have SPL_BLK so need to consider whether we can drop that.
> > > >
> > > > To be clear here, in that I can hand-wave my way to seeing a use case
> > > > for lib/efi_loader/ under SPL, it would not be in a world where we also
> > > > still would be supporting the non-DM infrastructure, and is also not a
> > > > near-term goal.
> > >
> > > OK good. Perhaps we should add a migration method for SPL_BLK? It
> > > would be good to know where we are in terms of the size stuff. I don't
> > > see a lot of boards rushing to use of-platdata, though.
> >
> > What do you mean? Since we have platforms that need to support 12 or 16
> > KiB of space for SPL, we're not going to enforce SPL_DM. But those
> > platforms can / do need to boot from MMC (SD card I think usually).
> >
> > In terms of platforms that could, but don't, enable SPL_BLK, that's just
> > the platforms that disable SPL_BLK today as it defaults to enabled when
> > possible.
>
> Well I wonder if we can use of-platdata and DM then perhaps some of
> these will fit. The OMAP platform I sent patches for was close to
> complete, I think, and I believe that was one of the tightest.
> Actually I cannot remember what board that was...
>
> The overhead is perhaps 7KB though, so maybe not suitable for 16KB.
It's only disabled on the vboot config, on am335x platforms. Honestly,
I would suggest a separate thread and ask the board maintainers in
question why specifically it's off. I know for
am335x_boneblack_vboot_defconfig it's inadvertent, it could be turned on
no problem I suspect.
--
Tom
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Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-01 5:01 [RFC 00/22] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to device model AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 01/22] part: call part_init() in blk_get_device_by_str() only for MMC AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 6:41 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-01 7:56 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-04 3:13 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 11:48 ` Peter Robinson
2021-10-04 3:26 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 10:07 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 14:32 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 15:08 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 16:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 3:26 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 13:30 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-13 1:50 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 20:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 01/22] scsi: call device_probe() after scanning AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 02/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 02/22] usb: storage: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 03/22] mmc: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 1:10 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 03/22] usb: storage: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 04/22] mmc: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 04/22] nvme: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 05/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 05/22] sata: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 06/22] block: ide: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 06/22] sata: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 1:11 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 07/22] block: ide: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 1:43 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 5:53 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-13 0:35 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 07/22] dm: blk: add UCLASS_PARTITION AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 9:30 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-04 3:27 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-08 0:51 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-08 8:23 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 2:29 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 15:02 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 16:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 16:48 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 17:41 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 5:12 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 6:42 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-12 15:14 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-13 1:32 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-13 18:05 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-14 8:03 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-14 20:55 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 8:52 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-28 10:42 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-29 1:45 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-29 4:57 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-29 6:15 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-29 19:21 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-29 21:17 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-30 5:45 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-01 0:36 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-01 1:15 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-01 1:51 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-01 2:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-02 1:42 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-02 7:38 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-05 2:02 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-05 2:49 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-05 16:12 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-08 4:46 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-08 18:44 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-11-09 0:09 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-13 18:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-13 18:37 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-13 21:32 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-15 1:43 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-15 19:05 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-15 19:16 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-15 23:51 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-16 0:02 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-16 3:01 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-12-03 7:16 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-12-03 16:06 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-12-06 4:18 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 3:53 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 08/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 9:32 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 08/22] dm: blk: add a device-probe hook for scanning disk partitions AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 09/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 09/22] dm: blk: add read/write interfaces with udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 10/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 10/22] efi_loader: disk: use udevice instead of blk_desc AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 11/22] dm: add a hidden link to efi object AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 11/22] efi_loader: disk: use udevice instead of blk_desc AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 12/22] dm: add a hidden link to efi object AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 6:43 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 15:26 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 16:09 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 2:09 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 20:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 12/22] efi_loader: remove !CONFIG_BLK code from efi_disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 13/22] efi_loader: disk: a helper function to create efi_disk objects from udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 13/22] efi_loader: remove !CONFIG_BLK code from efi_disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 14/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-probe hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 3:15 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-01 3:03 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 14/22] efi_loader: disk: a helper function to create efi_disk objects from udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 6:52 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 1:09 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 14:08 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 15/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-probe hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 15/22] efi_loader: cleanup after efi_disk-dm integration AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 16/22] efi_loader: add efi_remove_handle() AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 16/22] efi_loader: cleanup after efi_disk-dm integration AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 17/22] efi_loader: add efi_remove_handle() AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 17/22] efi_loader: efi_disk: a helper function to delete efi_disk objects AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 18/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-removal hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 18/22] efi_loader: efi_disk: a helper function to delete efi_disk objects AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 19/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-removal hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 19/22] efi_driver: align with efi_disk-dm integration AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 20/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 7:41 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 20/22] efi_driver: cleanup after " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 21/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 21/22] efi_selftest: block device: adjust dp for a test disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 22/22] (TEST) let dm-tree unchanged after block_io testing is done AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 22/22] efi_selftest: block device: adjust dp for a test disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-02 14:17 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-10 14:14 ` [RFC 00/22] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to device model Simon Glass
2021-10-12 15:00 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-12 20:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 21:13 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-12 23:37 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 23:40 ` Tom Rini [this message]
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