From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
To: Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
Cc: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>,
U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
Alex Graf <agraf@csgraf.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 07/22] dm: blk: add UCLASS_PARTITION
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 15:15:56 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211029061556.GD33977@laputa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <111f3160-3b5e-302e-c0ca-86c66093207e@gmx.de>
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 06:57:24AM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>
>
> > I agree with Heinrich that we are better to leave BLK as it is, both
> > in name and meaning. I think maybe I am missing the gist of your
> > argument.
> >
> > If we use UCLASS_PART, for example, can we have that refer to both s/w
> > and h/w partitions, as Herinch seems to allude to below? What would
> > the picture look like the, and would it get us closer to agreement?
>
> In the driver model:
>
> A UCLASS is a class of drivers that share the same interface.
> A UDEVICE is a logical device that belongs to exactly one UCLASS and is
> accessed through this UCLASS's interface.
Please be careful about "accessed through" which is a quite confusing
expression. I don't always agree with this view.
> A hardware partition is an object that exposes only a single interface
> for block IO.
>
> A software partition is an object that may expose two interfaces: one
> for block IO, the other for file IO.
Are you talking about UEFI world or U-Boot?
Definitely, a hw partitions can provide a file system
if you want.
It's a matter of usage.
I remember that we had some discussion about whether block devices
on UEFI system should always have a (sw) partition table or not.
But it is a different topic.
> The UEFI model does not have a problem with this because on a handle you
> can install as many different protocols as you wish. But U-Boot's driver
> model only allows a single interface per device. Up to now U-Boot has
> overcome this limitation by creating child devices for the extra interfaces.
> We have the following logical levels:
>
> Controller | Block device | Software Partition| File system
> ----------------+--------------+-------------------+------------
> NVMe Drive | Namespace | Partition 1..n | FAT, EXT4
> ATA Controller | ATA-Drive | |
> SCSI Controller | LUN | |
> MMC Controller | HW-Partition | |
> MMC Controller | SD-Card | |
> USB-Node | USB-Drive | |
>
> In the device tree this could be modeled as:
>
> |-- Controller (UCLASS_CTRL)
> | |-- Block device / HW Partition (UCLASS_BLK) (A)
> | | |-- Partition table (UCLASS_PARTITION_TABLE) (B)
> | | |-- Software Partition (UCLASS_BLK)
> | | |-- File system (UCLASS_FS)
> | |
> | |-- Block device (UCLASS_BLK)
> | |-- File system (UCLASS_FS)
I don't know why we expect PARTITION_TABLE and FS to appear in DM tree.
What is the benefit?
(A) and (B) always have 1:1 relationship.
I also remember that you claimed that not all efi objects(handles and
protocols like SIMPE_FILE_SYSTEM_PROTOCOL) need to have corresponding
U-Boot counterparts in our 2019 discussion.
If we *need* PARTITION_TALBLE, why don't we have HW_PARTITION_TABLE,
which should support other type of hw partitions as well?
|-- eMMC controller (UCLASS_MMC)
| |-- eMMC device1 / Physical media (UCLASS_HW_PARTITION_TABLE?)
| |-- Block device / HW Partition:user data (UCLASS_BLK)
| | |-- Partition table (UCLASS_PARTITION_TABLE)
| | |-- Software Partition (UCLASS_BLK)
| | |-- File system (UCLASS_FS)
| |
| |-- Block device / HW Partition:boot0 (UCLASS_BLK)
| |-- Block device / HW Partition:boot1 (UCLASS_BLK)
...
| |-- eMMC device2 / Physical media (UCLASS_HW_PARTITION_TABLE?)
|-- scsi controller (UCLASS_SCSI)
| |-- scsi disk / Physical media (UCLASS_HW_PARTITION_TABLE?)
| |-- scsi LUN1 (UCLASS_HW_PARTITION_TABLE?)
| | |-- Partition table (UCLASS_PARTITION_TABLE)
| | |-- Software Partition (UCLASS_BLK)
| |-- scsi LUN2 (UCLASS_HW_PARTITION_TABLE?)
...
(Here I ignored scsi buses/channels which make things more complicated.)
This kind of complex hierarchy doesn't benefit anybody.
-Takahiro Akashi
> UCLASS_PARTITION_TABLE would be for the drivers in disk/.
> UCLASS_FS would be for the drivers in fs/.
> UCLASS_BLK will be for any objects exposing raw block IO. A software
> partition does the same. It is created by the partition table driver as
> child of the partition table udevice.
>
> In this model an eMMC device will not be a UCLASS_BLK device because it
> does not expose block IO. It is the hardware partition that exposes this
> interface.
>
> The suggested model will allow a clean description of nested partition
> tables.
>
> In the UEFI world the software partition and its file system must be
> mapped to a single handle with device path node type HD(). For the
> parent block device we may create a child handle with partition number 0
> (HD(0)). For the partition table we will not create a handle.
>
> Best regards
>
> Heinrich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-29 6:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-01 5:01 [RFC 00/22] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to device model AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 01/22] part: call part_init() in blk_get_device_by_str() only for MMC AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 6:41 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-01 7:56 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-04 3:13 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 11:48 ` Peter Robinson
2021-10-04 3:26 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 10:07 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 14:32 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 15:08 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 16:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 3:26 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 13:30 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-13 1:50 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 20:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 01/22] scsi: call device_probe() after scanning AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 02/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 02/22] usb: storage: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 03/22] mmc: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 1:10 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 03/22] usb: storage: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 04/22] mmc: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 04/22] nvme: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 05/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 05/22] sata: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 06/22] block: ide: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 06/22] sata: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 1:11 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 07/22] block: ide: " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 1:43 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 5:53 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-13 0:35 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 07/22] dm: blk: add UCLASS_PARTITION AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 9:30 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-04 3:27 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-08 0:51 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-08 8:23 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 2:29 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 15:02 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 16:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 16:48 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 17:41 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 5:12 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 6:42 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-12 15:14 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-13 1:32 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-13 18:05 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-14 8:03 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-14 20:55 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 8:52 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-28 10:42 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-29 1:45 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-29 4:57 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-29 6:15 ` AKASHI Takahiro [this message]
2021-10-29 19:21 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-29 21:17 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-30 5:45 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-01 0:36 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-01 1:15 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-01 1:51 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-01 2:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-02 1:42 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-02 7:38 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-05 2:02 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-05 2:49 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-05 16:12 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-08 4:46 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-08 18:44 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-11-09 0:09 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-13 18:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-13 18:37 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-13 21:32 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-15 1:43 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-15 19:05 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-15 19:16 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-15 23:51 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-11-16 0:02 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-11-16 3:01 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-12-03 7:16 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-12-03 16:06 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-12-06 4:18 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 3:53 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:01 ` [RFC 08/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 9:32 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 08/22] dm: blk: add a device-probe hook for scanning disk partitions AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 09/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 09/22] dm: blk: add read/write interfaces with udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 10/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 10/22] efi_loader: disk: use udevice instead of blk_desc AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 11/22] dm: add a hidden link to efi object AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 11/22] efi_loader: disk: use udevice instead of blk_desc AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 12/22] dm: add a hidden link to efi object AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 6:43 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 15:26 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-11 16:09 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 2:09 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 20:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 12/22] efi_loader: remove !CONFIG_BLK code from efi_disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 13/22] efi_loader: disk: a helper function to create efi_disk objects from udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 13/22] efi_loader: remove !CONFIG_BLK code from efi_disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 14/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-probe hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 3:15 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-11-01 3:03 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 14/22] efi_loader: disk: a helper function to create efi_disk objects from udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 6:52 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-11 14:54 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 1:09 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-12 14:08 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 15/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-probe hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 15/22] efi_loader: cleanup after efi_disk-dm integration AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 16/22] efi_loader: add efi_remove_handle() AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 16/22] efi_loader: cleanup after efi_disk-dm integration AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 17/22] efi_loader: add efi_remove_handle() AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 17/22] efi_loader: efi_disk: a helper function to delete efi_disk objects AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 18/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-removal hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 18/22] efi_loader: efi_disk: a helper function to delete efi_disk objects AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 19/22] dm: blk: call efi's device-removal hook AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 19/22] efi_driver: align with efi_disk-dm integration AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 20/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-11 7:41 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 20/22] efi_driver: cleanup after " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 21/22] " AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-10 14:14 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 21/22] efi_selftest: block device: adjust dp for a test disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 22/22] (TEST) let dm-tree unchanged after block_io testing is done AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-01 5:02 ` [RFC 22/22] efi_selftest: block device: adjust dp for a test disk AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-02 14:17 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-10 14:14 ` [RFC 00/22] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to device model Simon Glass
2021-10-12 15:00 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-12 20:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 21:13 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-12 23:37 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-12 23:40 ` Tom Rini
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