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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: Soeren Moch <smoch@web.de>,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu@linaro.org>,
	U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>, Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	Bin Meng <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@samsung.com>, Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/19] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to driver model
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 22:00:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220309030035.GR5020@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ0hyOgi3-gAYPrF=azrQ3_808UQSZXTEkD=Cnm4qmxydA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 07:32:59PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
>  Hi Tom,
> 
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 17:13, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 02:20:15PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Hi Soeren,
> > >
> > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 12:15, Soeren Moch <smoch@web.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 08.03.22 17:56, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 09:49, Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 3/8/22 12:36, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > > > >>> With this patch set[1] applied, UEFI subsystem maintains a list of its
> > > > >>> disk objects dynamically at runtime based on block device's probing.
> > > > >>> (See "issues" below.)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> [1]https://github.com/t-akashi/u-boot/tree/efi/dm_disk
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This series together with Simon's series breaks multiple boards due to
> > > > >> size constraints:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://source.denx.de/u-boot/custodians/u-boot-efi/-/pipelines/11197
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Please, investigate how to work around this issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > tbs2910 - perhaps we should just drop this board? It doesn't use
> > > > > DM_SERIAL and still uses OF_EMBED
> > > >
> > > > Are we again at the same point? You are breaking working boards with
> > > > (for these boards) useless additions, and all you come up with is
> > > > "remove this board". Of course without adding the board maintainer.
> > >
> > > I'm just expressing reasonable frustration that this board uses
> > > OF_EMBED and does not use DM_SERIAL, after all of this time. Why
> > > should the rest of the U-Boot developers care more about this board
> > > than the maintainer?
> >
> > Please keep in mind Simon that we've had zero releases with the
> > DM_SERIAL migration warning being posted, v2022.04 will be the first
> > one.
> 
> Yes, understood :-) For OF_EMBED though...?

No deadline and 50 boards.

> It was actually quite hard to add a migration message until we added
> the CONFIG_SERIAL base thing and that was a pain to do.
> 
> For those of us who take on larger refactors etc., we end up spending
> a lot of our time on these few platforms. I'm not picking on tbs2910in
> in particular.

Well, the flip side of the problem here is that there's a number of
platforms with real constraints to them and it keeps being "can we drop
this yet?" without CC'ing the board maintainer on the series that once
again pushes a given platform to the limit.  I would expect no size
growth to tbs2910 for the topic of this series since it disables
EFI_LOADER entirely, so why is it a problem?

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-09  3:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-08 11:36 [PATCH v3 00/19] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to driver model AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] scsi: call device_probe() after scanning AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 13:30   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] usb: storage: " AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] mmc: " AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] nvme: " AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] sata: " AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] block: ide: " AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] virtio: call device_probe() in scanning AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] dm: tag: add some document AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] test: dm: add tests for tag support AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] dm: disk: add UCLASS_PARTITION AKASHI Takahiro
2022-04-09 19:05   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-04-13  3:16     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2022-04-14  6:17       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2022-04-14  7:13         ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] dm: blk: add a device-probe hook for scanning disk partitions AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] efi_loader: disk: a helper function to create efi_disk objects from udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2022-04-09 11:16   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-04-11  9:06     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] efi_loader: disk: a helper function to delete efi_disk objects AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] dm: disk: add read/write interfaces with udevice AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] efi_loader: disk: use udevice instead of blk_desc AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] efi_loader: disk: not create BLK device for BLK(IF_TYPE_EFI_LOADER) devices AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 11:36 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] efi_driver: align with efi_disk-dm integration AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 12:59 ` [PATCH v3 00/19] efi_loader: more tightly integrate UEFI disks to driver model Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-03-08 13:04   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-08 13:24     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-03-08 16:20       ` Simon Glass
2022-03-08 16:49 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-03-08 16:56   ` Simon Glass
2022-03-08 17:21     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2022-03-08 17:37       ` Simon Glass
2022-03-08 19:15     ` Soeren Moch
2022-03-08 21:20       ` Simon Glass
2022-03-09  0:13         ` Tom Rini
2022-03-09  2:32           ` Simon Glass
2022-03-09  3:00             ` Tom Rini [this message]
2022-03-09  3:10               ` Simon Glass
2022-03-09  3:11                 ` Simon Glass
2022-03-09 14:25                 ` Tom Rini
2022-03-09 15:33                   ` Simon Glass
2022-03-11 18:26                     ` Simon Glass
2022-03-11 22:43                     ` Soeren Moch
2022-03-12  5:02                       ` Simon Glass
2022-03-14  8:27                         ` Soeren Moch
2022-03-14 12:57                           ` Tom Rini
2022-03-14 17:08                           ` Simon Glass
2022-03-14 19:12                             ` Soeren Moch
2022-03-14 19:21                               ` Simon Glass
2022-03-09  7:16               ` Mark Kettenis
2022-03-09  2:10   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-09  2:34     ` Simon Glass
2022-03-09  2:48       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-09  3:10         ` Simon Glass
2022-03-09  5:07           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2022-03-09 11:52             ` Heinrich Schuchardt
     [not found] ` <20220308113657.221101-9-takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
2022-03-09 11:41   ` [PATCH v3 08/19] dm: add tag support Ilias Apalodimas
2022-03-10  0:02     ` AKASHI Takahiro

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