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From: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/11] An effort to bring DT bindings compliance within U-Boot
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 11:45:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240122114515.760e9cd3@donnerap.manchester.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240110103547.719757-1-sumit.garg@linaro.org>

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:05:36 +0530
Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org> wrote:

Hi,

I certainly welcome this more automatic synchronisation of the DTs,
however have one comment about the upcoming sync process:

> ...
> However, Linux kernel DT maintainers proposed [2] for U-Boot to rather
> use devicetree-rebasing repo [3] which is a forked copy from Linux
> kernel for DT source files as well as bindings. It is tagged at every
> Linux kernel major release or intermideate release candidates. So here I
> have tried to reuse that to bring DT bingings compliance as well as a
> standard way to maintain a regular sync of DT source files with Linux
> kernel.
> 
> In order to maintain devicetree files sync, U-Boot will maintains a Git
> subtree for devicetee-rebasing repo as `dts/upstream` sub-directory.
> U-Boot will regularly sync `dts/upstream/` subtree whenever the next window
> opens with the next available kernel major release.

I hope this doesn't need to stay that restricted? Can we either sync more
often, or at least on the kernel's -rc1, and not only on a "full" release?

The reason I ask is that we have a chicken-egg problem here: without a DT
merged into the kernel tree, no U-Boot board support can be merged. And
without U-Boot support, we cannot boot a kernel, at least not in the
canonical way.

Since the U-Boot and kernel merge windows are not in phase, for sunxi I try
to sync the kernel DTs either as early as possible (-rc1, sometimes even
before, when the maintainers have merged them into their tree), or
sometimes "out of season", if a board defconfig patch is coming up.

Otherwise new board support, which typically has a very low regression risk
for the rest of the code base, would need to be delayed until the next
release. In the worst case the U-Boot merge windows opens one week before
a kernel release, then new boards need to wait three months?

Cheers,
Andre

> `dts/update-dts-subtree.sh` script provides a wrapper around git subtree
> pull command, usage from the top level U-Boot source tree, run:
> 
> $ ./dts/update-dts-subtree.sh <devicetree-rebasing-release-tag>
> 
> The RFC/prototype for this series has been discussed with Linux DT
> maintainers as well as U-Boot maintainers here [4]. Now we would like to
> reach out to wider U-Boot community to seek feedback.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAFA6WYMLUD9cnkr=R0Uur+1UeTMkKjM2zDdMJtXb3nmrLk+pDg@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAL_JsqKEjv2tSGmT+0ZiO7_qbBfhTycbGnhJhYpKDFzfO9jzDg@mail.gmail.com/
> [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/devicetree/devicetree-rebasing.git/
> [4] https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot/pull/451
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-22 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-10 10:35 [PATCH v4 00/11] An effort to bring DT bindings compliance within U-Boot Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] CI: Exclude devicetree-rebasing subtree for CONFIG checks Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] Makefile: Add support for DT bindings schema checks Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] scripts/Makefile.lib: Statically define *-u-boot.dtsi files location Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] Makefile: Allow upstream DT subtree to provide DT includes Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] dts: Add alternative location for upstream DTB builds Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] dts: Add script to uprev dts/upstream subtree Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] doc: devicetree: Align documentation to use Kconfig options Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 12:31   ` Fabio Estevam
2024-01-10 12:40     ` Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] doc: devicetree: Updates for devicetree-rebasing subtree Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] MAINTAINERS: Add myself as devicetree-rebasing maintainer Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] dts: meson-gxbb: Switch to using upstream DT Sumit Garg
2024-01-10 10:35 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] dts: meson-gxbb: Drop redundant devicetree files Sumit Garg
2024-01-19 15:56 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] An effort to bring DT bindings compliance within U-Boot Nishanth Menon
2024-01-24  7:15   ` Sumit Garg
2024-01-21 14:33 ` Marek Vasut
2024-01-21 22:41   ` Caleb Connolly
2024-01-22  0:01     ` Tom Rini
2024-01-24  7:36       ` Sumit Garg
2024-01-22  0:14     ` Marek Vasut
2024-01-24  8:16       ` Sumit Garg
2024-01-25  2:03         ` Marek Vasut
2024-01-25  7:24           ` Sumit Garg
2024-01-25 15:04             ` Tom Rini
2024-01-25 16:38               ` Marek Vasut
2024-01-25 23:19                 ` Tom Rini
2024-01-26  2:10                   ` Marek Vasut
2024-01-26  7:04                     ` Michal Simek
2024-01-31 12:56                       ` Sumit Garg
2024-01-31 14:13                         ` Tom Rini
2024-01-22 11:45 ` Andre Przywara [this message]
2024-01-22 16:49   ` Tom Rini
2024-01-23  0:58     ` Andre Przywara
2024-01-23 16:42       ` Rob Herring
2024-01-24  9:03         ` Sumit Garg

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