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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>,
	Jagan Teki <jagan@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>,
	Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut+renesas@mailbox.org>,
	Mattijs Korpershoek <mkorpershoek@baylibre.com>,
	Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/8] bootstd: Avoid depending on BLK
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 08:22:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241114142221.GD3600562@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLszTjW2bGPRvUQC9pxvhKixpov8u2GxzzeUYeKo1FNFyuHug@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 08:53:31PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 at 10:47, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 08:09:31AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> >
> > > In principle bootstd can work without block devices, even if it does
> > > require driver model to be enabled in that case.
> > >
> > > The use of a 'depends on BLK' for BOOTSTD conflicts with the way 'BLK'
> > > is now defined, producing recursive errors through multiple different
> > > paths, one of which is this (with Linksprite_pcDuino3 and
> > > BOOTSTD_DEFAULTS enabled):
> > >
> > >   arch/arm/Kconfig:7:error: recursive dependency detected!
> > >   arch/arm/Kconfig:7: symbol ARM64 is selected by ARCH_UNIPHIER_V8_MULTI
> > >   arch/arm/mach-uniphier/Kconfig:17: symbol ARCH_UNIPHIER_V8_MULTI is
> > >      part of choice <choice>
> > >   arch/arm/mach-uniphier/Kconfig:6: choice <choice> contains symbol
> > >      ARCH_UNIPHIER_V8_MULTI
> > >   arch/arm/mach-uniphier/Kconfig:17: symbol ARCH_UNIPHIER_V8_MULTI is
> > >      part of choice SPL
> > >   arch/arm/mach-stm32mp/Kconfig:3: symbol SPL depends on SUPPORT_SPL
> > >   common/spl/Kconfig:1: symbol SUPPORT_SPL is selected by ASPEED_AST2600
> > >   arch/arm/mach-aspeed/Kconfig:26: symbol ASPEED_AST2600 is part of
> > >      choice <choice>
> > >   arch/arm/mach-aspeed/Kconfig:12: choice <choice> contains symbol
> > >      ASPEED_AST2500
> > >   arch/arm/mach-aspeed/Kconfig:17: symbol ASPEED_AST2500 is part of
> > >      choice DM_RESET
> > >   arch/arm/mach-renesas/Kconfig.rcar3:197: symbol DM_RESET is selected
> > >      by CLK_RCAR_GEN3
> > >   drivers/clk/renesas/Kconfig:53: symbol CLK_RCAR_GEN3 depends on
> > >      CLK_RENESAS
> > >   drivers/clk/renesas/Kconfig:1: symbol CLK_RENESAS depends on CLK
> > >   drivers/clk/Kconfig:3: symbol CLK is selected by IMX8M_POWER_DOMAIN
> > >   drivers/power/domain/Kconfig:35: symbol IMX8M_POWER_DOMAIN depends on
> > >      POWER_DOMAIN
> > >   drivers/power/domain/Kconfig:3: symbol POWER_DOMAIN is selected by
> > >      BCM6318_USBH_PHY
> > >   drivers/phy/Kconfig:83: symbol BCM6318_USBH_PHY depends on PHY
> > >   drivers/phy/Kconfig:4: symbol PHY is selected by USB_EHCI_MX7
> > >   drivers/usb/host/Kconfig:211: symbol USB_EHCI_MX7 depends on USB
> > >   drivers/usb/Kconfig:1: symbol USB is selected by BOOTSTD_DEFAULTS
> > >   boot/Kconfig:455: symbol BOOTSTD_DEFAULTS depends on BOOTSTD
> > >   boot/Kconfig:398: symbol BOOTSTD depends on BLK
> > >   drivers/block/Kconfig:1: symbol BLK is selected by PVBLOCK
> > >   drivers/xen/Kconfig:1: symbol PVBLOCK depends on XEN
> > >   Kconfig:176: symbol XEN depends on ARM64
> > >
> > > We don't want to revert the change to BLK, which has been in place for
> > > a year now. We don't want to select BLK in BOOTSTD since it should
> > > support booting without block devices. The only realistic option is to
> > > remove BOOTSTD's dependency on BLK.
> > >
> > > Disable standard boot on the one board which fails.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> > > ---
> > >
> > > (no changes since v3)
> > >
> > > Changes in v3:
> > > - Drop wip (work-in-progress) comment in commit
> > >
> > > Changes in v2:
> > > - Add new patch to resolve BOOTSTD->BLK recursion with Kconfig
> > >
> > >  boot/Kconfig                                   | 2 +-
> > >  configs/gardena-smart-gateway-mt7688_defconfig | 1 +
> > >  2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/boot/Kconfig b/boot/Kconfig
> > > index 7dd30a030e3..b5433e88f10 100644
> > > --- a/boot/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/boot/Kconfig
> > > @@ -393,7 +393,7 @@ config BOOT_DEFAULTS
> > >  menuconfig BOOTSTD
> > >       bool "Standard boot"
> > >       default y
> > > -     depends on DM && OF_CONTROL && BLK
> > > +     depends on DM && OF_CONTROL
> > >       help
> > >         U-Boot supports a standard way of locating something to boot,
> > >         typically an Operating System such as Linux, provided by a distro such
> >
> > This ends up being a massive size bloat on all of the boards which did
> > not use BOOTSTD before, and still can't (because there's no appropriate
> > methods). You need to not just disable it on the one board that fails
> > but on everything not currently enabling it, which now does enable it.
> 
> Looking through the list it is hard to know which boards can't use
> bootstd, nor what the missing methods are. See [1]. I could perhaps
> disable bootstd for all of the boards?

Well, since you cannot have a block device without BLK at this point,
none of them can use bootstd since there's no methods for whatever flash
they use?

> > Or you need to better explain what's going on here, exactly and why
> > depending on BLK here is wrong, for what you're doing.
> 
> I tried that already. We had quite a long thread about it.

Yes, can you remind me please? I still don't see why this is required
for sunxi support. And I think this is another good example of where
your commit message explains your solution, but not the underlying
problem you're solving. None of the platforms in [1] are ARCH_SUNXI.

-- 
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-14 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-13 15:09 [PATCH v5 0/8] bootstd: sunxi: Migrate to standard boot Simon Glass
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] bootstd: Avoid depending on BLK Simon Glass
2024-11-13 17:47   ` Tom Rini
2024-11-14  3:53     ` Simon Glass
2024-11-14 14:22       ` Tom Rini [this message]
2024-11-15 14:27         ` Simon Glass
2024-11-15 14:37           ` Tom Rini
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] sunxi: Add a bootmeth for FEL Simon Glass
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] efi_loader: bootstd: Drop bootmgr for sunxi Simon Glass
2024-11-13 17:50   ` Tom Rini
2024-11-15 14:21     ` Simon Glass
2024-11-23  2:08       ` Andre Przywara
2024-11-23  4:06         ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2024-11-23 13:07           ` Andre Przywara
2024-11-23 16:56             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2024-11-16  7:37   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] RFC: Revert "bootstd: Make efi_mgr bootmeth work for non-sandbox setups" Simon Glass
2024-11-13 17:52   ` Tom Rini
2025-01-05  2:50   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2025-01-09 15:01     ` Simon Glass
2025-01-09 15:04       ` Tom Rini
2025-01-09 15:11         ` Simon Glass
2025-01-09 15:22           ` Tom Rini
2025-01-10 13:41             ` Simon Glass
2025-01-10 17:05               ` Tom Rini
2025-01-15 13:22                 ` Simon Glass
2025-01-15 14:33                   ` Tom Rini
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] sunxi: Move to bootstd Simon Glass
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] sunxi: Drop old distro boot variables Simon Glass
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] env: Provide a work-around for unquoting fdtfile Simon Glass
2024-11-13 17:53   ` Tom Rini
2025-03-10 22:26   ` Tom Rini
2024-11-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] sunxi: Move to text environment Simon Glass

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