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Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bill-the-cat ([189.177.145.20]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d75a77b69052e-46e6689d9e1sm906211cf.35.2025.01.23.09.17.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 23 Jan 2025 09:17:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 11:17:08 -0600 From: Tom Rini To: Simon Glass Cc: Tony Dinh , U-Boot Mailing List , AKASHI Takahiro , Caleb Connolly , Dragan Simic , Emil Kronborg , Etienne Carriere , Francis Laniel , Guillaume La Roque , Heinrich Schuchardt , Hou Zhiqiang , Igor Opaniuk , Ilias Apalodimas , Ion Agorria , Jerome Forissier , Julien Masson , Marek Vasut , Mark Kettenis , Martyn Welch , Mattijs Korpershoek , Maxim Moskalets , Maximilian Brune , Michael Trimarchi , Michal Simek , Moritz Fischer , Nam Cao , Peter Robinson , Quentin Schulz , Sean Anderson , Sean Edmond , Shantur Rathore , Sughosh Ganu , Svyatoslav Ryhel , Thomas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wei=DFschuh?= , Tim Harvey , Vincent =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stehl=E9?= Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/19] bootstd: Support recording images Message-ID: <20250123171708.GN60249@bill-the-cat> References: <20250115212439.GD3476@bill-the-cat> <20250115233157.GE3476@bill-the-cat> <20250116172159.GH3476@bill-the-cat> <20250118144132.GW3476@bill-the-cat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qmotElmfbC+rg5Ve" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:42:05 +0100 X-BeenThere: u-boot@lists.denx.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: U-Boot discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Sender: "U-Boot" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.8 at phobos.denx.de X-Virus-Status: Clean --qmotElmfbC+rg5Ve Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 07:38:04AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote: > Hi Tom, >=20 > On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 at 07:41, Tom Rini wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 09:49:43PM -0800, Tony Dinh wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 8:32=E2=80=AFPM Simon Glass wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 at 10:22, Tom Rini wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 08:52:38AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 16:32, Tom Rini wro= te: > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > I'm referring to the whole bootmeth/bootflow/etc thing. Is th= is going to > > > > > > > be put to use by anyone / anywhere on PowerPC? M68K? MIPS? 32= bit ARM is > > > > > > > a harder question there, which is also where this particular = overflow > > > > > > > was. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still not sure what you are saying. Are you wanting to disa= ble > > > > > > bootstd by default / go back to distro scripts / force everyone= to use > > > > > > EFI_LOADER / ? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I'm asking where it's appropriate to enable this new functio= nality > > > > > by default. It certainly should be enabled on arm64 (there's new > > > > > designs) and riscv (there's new designs). It still ought to be en= abled > > > > > on arm32 because we otherwise lack a easy way to say "new" arm32 = (say > > > > > i.MX7) and not "old" arm32 (say i.MX23). What is the point of ena= bling > > > > > this on PowerPC for example? The active users there are (generall= y) > > > > > supporting legacy hardware and I have no idea how much they want = to > > > > > change their boot process, once bootstd supports flash for exampl= e. > > > > > There's similar questions for everything else under arch/ as well. > > > > > > > > To me this is in fact two different questions. > > > > > > > > 1. For PowerPC, m68k, MIPS, I suppose we can just disable BOOTSTD a= nd wait for them to go away, if you are saying that they are behind on migr= ations will never catch up > > > > On what migrations? A board that has a boot command is not some legacy > > non-migrated case. That's a valid regular use case. >=20 > I'm referring to a board that uses distro scripts. OK. Just FYI, "distro scripts" weren't a thing outside of ARM (and maybe RISC-V, and just turris_1x_sdcard on PPC?). --=20 Tom --qmotElmfbC+rg5Ve Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAABCgAdFiEEGjx/cOCPqxcHgJu/FHw5/5Y0tywFAmeSeZQACgkQFHw5/5Y0 tyzbXwv/VdGmXMDo35ExjCoyuQCsuONIGIeS8/HlXQ+kfVnR6ezzb70ueAZ17ZJ8 GwAeOhNtraqHJc3w6gMub+5Qvy3duM67YarcvQ/+MlHMNhEpgIC1rMWy4owjeBDJ IMYPF0e5YK3eAoGoFNQFI0mX8YJ1E1A3UrYmFLmWa8HW1ftUMoHn23v3NIg1EXlN hiXXKwQh2Eq0bbwu3SRFVPTnBO+oLNVQfOErA8JwL5loFZEcGkKCsAIPVQGZmK5F xCzolDUCurlvCnxXRgHh9pvlfO5jcZ+bmLiPQUvIDgkWk/BPNiGfI4uLh8fTIkkd +8erfT1Iqihms2AdUvcH32BFRigDTe0GpF5ZEVycsqCwcWNAZglpuKJ8Cij0VsXJ bgiBVtI+YRmzEZt3/UULvP8j5iyEoHpri/KBxd6NxP0Tyqmhry08XT+zzE7feEOP SyySj17R+W25OTU4KGkWJqJAxgtjm+8X8Vv+k3MUT2gJ9T83clyh7br8gArrAd1J 3u/g6F+r =Wrif -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qmotElmfbC+rg5Ve--