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From: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@yahoo.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] NAND bad environment block handling
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:26:12 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <382183.1535.qm@web33608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231672254.3130.29.camel@mobil.alm.archives.at>

Manfred,

Thanks for your suggestions.
Did you modify u-boot to search from the last block of the device backwards?
I feel putting the env at the end is quite a good idea.

Unfortunately in our system we need to modify the env at runtime.
For software upgrade we aim to go for a ping pong strategy (so having two kernels and two rfs-es in flash, and upgrade the non active kernel, then modify u-boot env so the next time we boot from the upgraded kernel).
Unless of course there is a better strategy for this.

Best regards, Frans.


--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Schlaegl Manfred jun. <manfred.schlaegl@gmx.at> wrote:

> From: Schlaegl Manfred jun. <manfred.schlaegl@gmx.at>
> Subject: Re: [U-Boot] NAND bad environment block handling
> To: fransmeulenbroeks at yahoo.com
> Cc: u-boot at lists.denx.de
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 12:10 PM
> Hi!
> Am Donnerstag, den 08.01.2009, 07:19 -0800 schrieb Frans
> Meulenbroeks:
> > 
> > Has someone experience in this area? Ideas?
> Suggestions?
> 
> 1. For our systems we assume, that the env-block never gets
> bad in
> productive use, because the env-block is never written
> again. So we
> reduced the problem to number of initial/factory bad
> blocks.
> 2. the partitioning and environment-saving is done at
> production-time.
> 3. we put the environment in the last good block of the
> device. The
> search starts at the end of device and ends at the last
> block of the
> last data-partition with an error.
> 
> 
> Example-Partition-Table on an 32MB-NAND, with blocksize
> 16kb and max. 45
> factory bad-blocks:
>  * the part-size means the possible data size (without
> bad-blocks). 
>  * the real partition-size on device depends on the
> bad-blocks in this
> the partition and is calculated automatically at
> production-time
> (partition generation).
> 
> part-size      partition
>  200kb:         uboot
>  1000kb:        kernel
>  15000kb:       rootfs
>  15832kb:       datafs
> rest of device: rest (maximal 45*16kb (max bad blocks) +
> 16bk (envblock)
> = 736kb
> 
> with an increasing number of initial/factory bad-blocks the
> rest-partition shrinks. So the env-block can be written on
> any
> nand-device without less than 45 (initial/factory)
> bad-blocks.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks alot!
> > Frans Meulenbroeks
> > 
> 
> - Manfred


      

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-11 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-08 15:19 [U-Boot] NAND bad environment block handling Frans Meulenbroeks
2009-01-08 16:06 ` Cote, Sylvain
2009-01-09  7:25   ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2009-01-08 19:57 ` Scott Wood
2009-01-09  7:21   ` Marcel Ziswiler
2009-01-09 21:23     ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-01-11 11:10 ` Schlaegl Manfred jun.
2009-01-11 13:26   ` Frans Meulenbroeks [this message]
2009-01-11 20:20     ` Schlaegl Manfred jun.
2009-01-11 13:28   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-01-11 14:35     ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2009-01-11 21:56       ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-01-11 20:30     ` Schlaegl Manfred jun.
     [not found] <mailman.2543.1231435349.2783.u-boot@lists.denx.de>
2009-01-08 18:27 ` Derek Ou
     [not found] <mailman.2551.1231706115.2783.u-boot@lists.denx.de>
2009-01-13 14:55 ` David.Kondrad at onqlegrand.com

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