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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot and NIOS dk 1s10 board
@ 2003-11-17 18:40 Scott McNutt
  2003-11-18  8:27 ` Stephan Linz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Scott McNutt @ 2003-11-17 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Patrice,

> It works now...in fact, my reference design for STRATIX
> configuration was not similar to the IO mapping used by u-boot
> for NIOS... It works with the Altera's "standard 32"  reference
> design (with the .SREC in the CDKNIOS project and after
> u-boot recompilation too).

Great news!

> My student will work on the u-boot APEX port...just an adaptation
> I think...I may be a good idea that the stratix 1S10 board appears
> as its own board and not as a cyclone board in the u-boot distro...

I enthusiastically agree :-) It is not simply a good idea, but IMHO
*essential* that each Nios board have it's own u-boot configuration.
Since *everything* is configurable with Nios, it's very easy to create
a monster by having multiple board configs masquerading as one.

U-Boot for Nios development kits should always support the
default "out-of-the-box" Nios configuration (for the altera boards,
this is typically the "standard 32" config). This is not intended to
limit creativity, but to avoid confusion and save time. Basically,
if new users get u-boot running quickly and easily, maintainers
and contributors will spend less time answering questions. And
this is a good thing for both the user and contributors :-)

In general, support for custom configurations should be:

1. disabled by default,
2. enabled IAW README (i.e. CONFIG_xxx CFG_xxx),
3. supported by an appropriate README file in u-boot/doc.

Congratulations & Best Regards,
--Scott
N3ADP

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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot and NIOS dk 1s10 board
@ 2003-11-18 14:13 Scott McNutt
  2003-11-18 15:21 ` Stephan Linz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Scott McNutt @ 2003-11-18 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi All,

I agree with all of the comments I have seen so far WRT
Nios configuration issues. My primary motivation is to make
sure Nios users new to u-boot, can build a __working__ version
of u-boot by simply:

    $ make DK1C20_config | DK1S10_config | etc.
    $ make

As long as this holds true, I'm happy :-)

> Yes, of course. We have to make different configuration
> files -- one for each board. But, do we really need different
> board directories with almost the same code in it?

u-boot has a clever mechanism we can use to avoid code
duplication by using the VENDOR make variable. A good
example is in board/siemens: the SCM and CCM boards
both share common code.

Since this mechanism is supported ... and it is being used by
other board families, we can do the same. It's a bit more
work ... but I believe it will satisfy everyone :-)

> Ex.: My current Stratix patch is based on the Cyclone board,
> because both boards are equal in context of u-boot basics need.
> Only the second serial i/f  differs (not needed til now). So there
> will be more identicalness than differences for both boards.

Understood. We can create board/altera_nios (or some other
meaningful name) and take advantage of the VENDOR variable
to accommodate common code. Stephen & Patrice, please let
me know your thoughts.

Best Regards,
--Scott

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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot and NIOS dk 1s10 board
@ 2003-11-14 13:48 Scott McNutt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Scott McNutt @ 2003-11-14 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi Patrice,

> I'm trying to use u-boot on a altera's stratix 1S10 board....
> I've downloaded the stephan's RPM u-boot port for this
> board...and  downloaded intoo my board...but it doesn't
> work

Please provide more details ... how did you download?
What did you observe?

> has anyone succeded to boot u-boot on this board?

Stephan has indicated that he was successful.

> is the port incorporated in the 1.0.0 u-boot version...I
> just see the cyclone board....

No, currently only the Cyclone development board is
supported. But based on the information I've received, the
Stratix board is very similar ... so adding support should
be fairly straight forward.

> Is anyone try to port ?Clinux on NIOS ? I'm currently working
> on this point and having a linux bootloader is the first step...

Yes ...you can view the Nios sources for uClinux archive at:
http://cvs.uclinux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/uClinux-2.4.x/arch/niosnommu/

I haven't had a chance to work with uClinux yet ... as I'm
currently working on support for Nios ASMI ... which is only
useful for Cyclone devices. But please do keep me in the loop ...
I'd love to help ... once I find some time :-)

Regards,
--Scott

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* [U-Boot-Users] u-boot and NIOS dk 1s10 board
@ 2003-11-14 13:06 Patrice Kadionik
  2003-11-14 14:13 ` Stephan Linz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Patrice Kadionik @ 2003-11-14 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

hi all,
I'm trying to use u-boot on a altera's stratix 1S10 board....
I've downloaded the stephan's RPM u-boot port for this board...and 
downloaded intoo my board...but it doesn't work
has anyone succeded to boot u-boot on this board?
is the port incorporated in the 1.0.0 u-boot version...I just see the 
cyclone board....

Is anyone try to port ?Clinux on NIOS ? I'm currently working on this 
point and having a linux bootloader is the first step...
Cheer's
Pat.

-- 
Patrice Kadionik. F6KQH / F4CUQ
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