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* [U-Boot-Users] Re[1]:   BDI2000 vs Vision-ICE
@ 2004-01-09 15:32 Mike Wellington
  2004-01-09 19:31 ` Ed Okerson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Mike Wellington @ 2004-01-09 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Dear Wolfgang -
    I agree.  However my superiors seem to want to spend the
money.  Good debugging skills and an easy-to-debug architecture
matter more.   I just didn't want us to spend USD$7500 on something
that we could buy for USD$2500 - especially not when the traffic
on the list says the BDI2000 is better.  But they seem hell-bent
on spending the money.

Mike Wellington
wellington at lucent.com

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [U-Boot-Users] BDI2000 vs Vision-ICE
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:04:38 +0100
From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>

In my experience, this is marketing babble. For the low  level  stuff
("simple  problems"),  a  good logic analyzer is at least as capable,
and for  the  highlevel  ("complicated")  problems  it  doesn't  work
anyway,  and  a plain BDM/JTAG debugger plus a little brain and a lot
of experience gives beter results.

Just my $ 0.02 - ymmv.

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* [U-Boot-Users] Re[1]:   BDI2000 vs Vision-ICE
  2004-01-09 15:32 [U-Boot-Users] Re[1]: BDI2000 vs Vision-ICE Mike Wellington
@ 2004-01-09 19:31 ` Ed Okerson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Ed Okerson @ 2004-01-09 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

OK, I'll sell you my BDI2000 for $7500 then. :)

Ed Okerson

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Mike Wellington wrote:

> Dear Wolfgang -
>     I agree.  However my superiors seem to want to spend the
> money.  Good debugging skills and an easy-to-debug architecture
> matter more.   I just didn't want us to spend USD$7500 on something
> that we could buy for USD$2500 - especially not when the traffic
> on the list says the BDI2000 is better.  But they seem hell-bent
> on spending the money.
>
> Mike Wellington
> wellington at lucent.com
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [U-Boot-Users] BDI2000 vs Vision-ICE
> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:04:38 +0100
> From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
>
> In my experience, this is marketing babble. For the low  level  stuff
> ("simple  problems"),  a  good logic analyzer is at least as capable,
> and for  the  highlevel  ("complicated")  problems  it  doesn't  work
> anyway,  and  a plain BDM/JTAG debugger plus a little brain and a lot
> of experience gives beter results.
>
> Just my $ 0.02 - ymmv.
>
>
>
>
>
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